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The dual citizenship scandal/imbroglio/fiasco : Comments

By Don Aitkin, published 24/11/2017

It is surely worrying that another country can apparently determine whether or not one of our citizens is eligible to stand for our national parliament.

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Allan,

You should be sorry,too: for your ignorance of the fact that the dual citizens were WRONGLY, UNCONSTITUTIONALLY elected and were too stupid, or deceitful and lying, to realise that fact. The is no law higher than the Constitution. Further, what would have been legal when the Constitution was written, is not legal now, and your comment is downright silly. In this instance, the HC judges acted properly, and unanimously. Your ignorance of the Constitution is as appalling as that of the ineligible nicampoops you are defending. And, I am not trying to 'sway' your opinion because you are incapable of accepting the truth. It is you who have no understanding of the Constitution, and I am not a loser because I agree with the Court's decision. Your cranky ideas are wrong, not mine. I could recommend a book, written by a constitutional law professor, but I doubt that you would understand it even if you were not too pig-headed enough to read it.
Posted by ttbn, Friday, 24 November 2017 9:56:46 PM
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David,

A rewrite of sec. 44 is not going to happen. Even the politicians are not going for that. Why people would even want people in parliament who are so ignorant of, or contemptuous of, the Constitution that they are supposed to be upholding is he beyond me. At the very least, the people involved were too dumb to be in parliament. That, or they are too dishonest. There is no getting around it.
Posted by ttbn, Friday, 24 November 2017 10:11:01 PM
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ttbn, Thanks for your commentary and the gob full of abuse that demonstrably, makes my case for me!

You are just so deleted expletive predictable! Just need winging up and letting go! Anything to add, genius?

Whether we do or don't have an overdue referendum is not down to you or equally certain Hasbeen! But the majority! Repeat,MAJORITY!

Wouldn't it be wonderfully revealing, if either of those two "gentlemen" had a Greek, or some other similarly disposed nationality, great great great great granpappy somewhere in their lineage!? And as such, also became ineligible as irrevocable dual citizens?

And without question, not in any way, shape or form, the intention of the crafters of our (non-amended) constitution, which by the way would now render the writers, if still living, both of them, ineligible! And indeed all their sons and daughters!

As I understand it, only a successful referendum can alter/amend the constitution, not the high court which remains limited to interpretation only!

And therefore cannot reinterpret under a constitution, they apparently and independently of the people, amended in 88?

And by dint of a reinterpretation in the British parliament of the term British? And therefore folks born in any part of the non Australian commonwealth, even though they had the very same head of state, went from being eligible in 87 to ineligible in 88!

I rest my case.
Alan B.
Posted by Alan B., Saturday, 25 November 2017 9:42:08 AM
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VK3AUU,

"In my case, I have two grandfathers who were both born in Ireland and if I am able to produce the appropriate documentation, then I would be able to claim citizenship of the Republic of Ireland, even though both my parents were born and raised in Australia, each with a father who was born in Ireland"

In that case, you are an Irish citizen all that you can claim from the Irish Government is recognition of that fact and your inclusion in the Book of Foreign Births, then a Passport and all the advantages that come with it.

Just don't stand for Parliament*!!

*in Australia.
Posted by Is Mise, Saturday, 25 November 2017 9:50:44 AM
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Let us pray that Charles sent his letter to Greece. "An ethnic Greek born outside of Greece may acquire Greek citizenship by naturalization if they fail to qualify for simple registration as the child of a Greek citizen. The applicant must prove that at least one parent or grandparent was born a Greek national."

Philip as a duke is nothing compared to King Charles the Greek , Emperor of Australia and Melbourne Greeks.
Posted by nicknamenick, Saturday, 25 November 2017 10:00:39 AM
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Alan B. don't bother with that total troll being nasty. It has no understanding of history or the intent of the Constitution and tries to camouflage it with bluster.
Posted by minotaur, Saturday, 25 November 2017 10:17:00 AM
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