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An end to unspeakable acts of violence : Comments

By Chris Fotinopoulos, published 27/10/2017

Are we happy for the elderly to sleep with a loaded firearm beneath their pillow?

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"right to keep that 9mm"? We are talking about the right to do away with yourself here, not the right 'to bear arms'. You don't have the right to keep Nembutal in the house, so applying for a permit with the reason for doing so 'to top myself when I feel like it' is never going to happen. I repeat: do what you like to yourself, but do not expect the rest of society to help you out or take responsiblity for your decision.
Posted by ttbn, Saturday, 28 October 2017 8:12:23 AM
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Armchair Critic:

Been there and done that! Nell was my loyal companion and best mate for around nine years.

She had all her shots and the very best care I could afford!

Everywhere I went she wanted to go. We used to pass a replica horse on an occasional shopping trip. I'd say look, she'd bark and growl, then wag her stumpy tail as the horse disappeared from sight, in the rear view.

As always, she'd fearlessly place herself between me and anything that might possibly harm me? Regardless!

As for Buddy, Bismuth 213 would have resulted, I believe, in remission!

And if made plentiful! Also affordable!

For mine, many of our animal friends are better and worth more than many humans! And deserve a chance as opposed to having a valuable life truncated!

Simply because some politicians are stuck in their own fear filled fact free vacuum, somewhere south of the eighteenth century?

And when it comes to nuclear energy and desirable offshoot consequences, like alpha particle isotope, miracle cure, Bismuth 213. That quite literally can mean life or death for us and or our loved ones!

Be they two legged or four?

Perpetually prevaricating pollies can't get past, wind, solar, hydro power and olden coal. Wind, solar, hydro power and olden coal. Wind solar, hydro power and olden coal.

So, R.I.P Buddy, Nell and some of our comrades, trying to hang on for family and friends for as long as they're able! While a gormless few, watch and feel so personally uncomfortable, they think that your life is less worthless than a dog!?

And in innumerable cases, would simply stuff it out? Then hand the death certificate to a Doctor, that may have never ever seen the patient, [for a natural causes,] validating signature?

Wind solar hydro power and olden coal. And repeat seven thousand times!

Bismuth 213 advocates will eventually get the message! Even as the tears stream down cheeks as they shovel sod!
Alan B.
Posted by Alan B., Saturday, 28 October 2017 9:13:41 AM
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Hey Alan B,
Good to hear about your times with Nell.
You can't replace them can you...
And some people just don't get it.

I've never heard of 'Bismuth 213' before, but I'm going to look it up.
I was offered the option of allowing him to be taken to a university vet where they may have tried different treatments on him; they may very well have tried that drug, I'm not sure, but I just couldn't stand the idea of him being on his last legs poked and prodded until death with me not there.
I'd lost my license at the time and I didn't really have the insight or means to investigate the University Vet option or potential treatments.
He was an awesome dog, really smart, good with kids, could take him anywhere I went, and could leave him out the front of stores I went into without being tied up and he'd stay right there.
Poor little mate, died before his time.

I was actually thinking about it last night - that he was gnawing at his front forearm and thought to myself, why didn't I remove the forearm?
I probably did question the vet at the time, even though it was an ugly option, but being blood disorder - don't know if it would've made any difference.
It's a shame I didn't know about 'Bismuth 213' at the time.
Damn, it sucks when you feel like you let them down.

"So, R.I.P Buddy, Nell and some of our comrades, trying to hang on for family and friends for as long as they're able!"
- Thanks for saying that.

Anyway, I commend your efforts always pushing the Thorium agenda, though I don't totally understand it all.
You probably get tired constantly reminding everyone of it, but you're doing a good thing.
Has the pilot plant / feasability now been shown to be good / viable / cost effective with this technology now?
Posted by Armchair Critic, Saturday, 28 October 2017 10:15:25 AM
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"Are we happy for the elderly to sleep with a loaded firearm beneath their pillow?"

Where an author's facts and argument have merit, there is never a need to 'sex up' the headline or opening to get interested readers. It was a very silly, ill-conceived and inappropriate for all sorts of reasons. The public is aware of the negative stereotyping of Australian legally licensed firearms owners. In view of the recency of the LA tragedy, which was in a separate sovereign nation half a world away and with social and other problems entirely different to Australia's, it might be construed as opportunist ambulance-chasing. The tabloid media and opportunist politicians have worked that to disgusting levels and earned their public revulsion.
Posted by leoj, Saturday, 28 October 2017 12:22:09 PM
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So it's Consensual Homocide Ok and Personal Suicide Bad. What a universe of contradictions we find ourselves in when the socialist champions of compassion start bumping into their own shadows.
The arguement here is saying ones own choice by available means is unspeakably bad but if presumably ones own choice is agreed to by another then it's pure and compassionate that the choice is physically carried through by another on the one. (He begged me to do it your honour, honest..).
At the very least it's an example of the busybody socialist control freaks determination to never allow a personal decision be made without their involvement.

As for comparisons with euthanasia of animals. Have livestock so have to do that myself from time to time. It's always an act of compassion but it's never their choice. With humans it'd be straight up homocide.

This topic is about legalising Homocide. Period.
Which brings me to a question for the ethicists. In a free marketplace should the compassionate helper negotiate a required fee and take payment before agreeing to administer compassion? Or Perform compassion and bill the estate or remaining family members later? Or maybe if the helper's so compassionate about carrying out compassion do it for free or for just the contents of the compassion seekers wallet at the time instead of billing the relatives?
Posted by jamo, Saturday, 28 October 2017 4:15:07 PM
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Armchair, a comprehensive trial was conducted in the sixties/seventies by Alvin Weinberg, the inventor/patent holder of the first working nuclear reactor.

Understood as nobody else could, that design flaws and a solid fuel system that relied on around 300 atmospheres; plus problematic solid fuel that expanded inside a fixed space! Would eventually encounter problems. As borne out in Three Mile Island, Chernobyl And Fukushima.

All relying on engineered safety in triplicate and constant human vigilance. Moreover, in solid fuel the Bismuth 213 is locked inside the spent solid fuel rods and notoriously difficult to recover?

However, virtual child's play to recover from an operational molten salt reactor from the plumbing, given the thing is not pressurised, nor does it need to be!

Because the boiling point of molten fluoride is around 1400 C and all the sweet spot operating temperatures varying between 400-700 C! Able to rely exclusively, on built in, walk away safe, passive safety!

Take a U tube butchers at the case for thorium, where you could read me? Or better yet, Kirk Sorensen or Professor Hargreaves. The latter the Author of, Thorium, cheaper than coal.

Professor Hargreaves, the source of a 1,98 cents P.K.H. as the median, for a thorium powered molten salt reactor.

Which as a comparative 350 M.W reactor, the FUJI molten salt reactor the Brazilians are planning for, would burn just one ton of thorium fuel during its entire useful operating life!

With any remnant waste, stable in around a decade.

Contrast that with a traditional light water reactor and total 2251 tons of highly enriched fuel. Almost as expensive and rare as platinum, creating almost as much waste, with a half life of thousands of years!

And preferred by that clever Taswegian, cause he knows, it'll never fly here!

By all means check all the validated, peer reviewed facts and then get in the queue demanding the pollies do something that follows logic's rites, with regard to our energy policy and price structure!

If only to ensure there are far fewer Buddy and Nell tragedies, in the future!
Cheers, Alan B.
Posted by Alan B., Saturday, 28 October 2017 5:32:05 PM
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