SteeleRedux, in the case of the jews, to be honest, their take on so many things is so, well, jewish. The example you give may be a religious based one. I am cautious about discussing anything jewish, they are a cult that does not invite non jews into their fold. As for their tagging of women and offspring and the like, I could not care less. In the true definition of someones nationality is as follows;
If your parents are both Aussie and you are born here, you are an Aussie.
If one of your parents is born here and you are born here, you are an Aussie.
If both your parents are born in another country (both from the same country) and you are born here, guess what you are whatever your parents country of birth is.
Just because you are born here means you can have an Australian passport. But you can also have dual passports.
So if an aboriginal is mothered and fathered by parents whose blood line has not been broken since forever, then they are rightfully aboriginals. The rest are wannabees and therefore Australian!

David, Alt Rav,

So people are like puppets, you can document them and categorise them and move them around your hypothetical chess-board as you please ? I must say I've heard some pretty dumb ideas but .....

At leas5t in the 'south', Aboriginal people have grown up 'knowing' what they're NOT - they've 'known' all their lives that they're NOT whitefellas. So your fanciful attempts to effectively demand that all Indigenous people register themselves and line up against some sort of colour chart, or undergo DNA tests, will - quite understandably - provoke a very common response: i.e. "Shove it up your hairy arse."

Racism never dies, does it ?

Joe

Loudmouth, what the hell are you talking about? Either you're responding to the wrong comments or your waaaaaaaay off target. My comments are about 'correctly' identifying people using a blood line/geographical formula. I have no interest in racism nor do I believe in it. Christ man I'm not Aussie by my own definition so take back your racist slur or I will get on your case. Now that I've cleared that up, I will continue. I have no idea what your post is about I did not infer that we 'line people up against a wall' or whatever. As for 'shoving' something 'up my arse', not sure what that is about but I imagine you might or you would not make reference to it. Just to clarify, as I have said previously, these comments are simply extensions of what a well known aboriginal elder said some time ago on radio. He stated that all these 'wannabees', stop calling themselves aboriginal. He explained that the ones he was talking about were of 'mixed' parents and not aboriginal parents. HE said this NOT ME! I happen to agree with him, oh and BTW this formula applies to ALL humans in ALL countries. I don't know what your background is but get over yourself. My comments are that of an elder so go and tell him to, as you so eloquently put it,'shove it up his arse'. I dare you.

Mmmmm....this must be the intellectual part of the conversation so I guess that lets me out

HAHA, tell me about it. I felt the tone drop but I am not quick enough to catch it these days. Well I hope someone picks it up again and runs with it. I would like to hear some mature debate/reasoning on the matter.

David, Alt Rav,

My point is simply - would you place demands like those on anybody else ? Would you demand that, say, Dutch- or Vietnamese- or Scottish-Australians, submit their ancestries to some board for vetting ? That some outside body, board, panel, whatever, can dictate who is, and who isn't Indigenous ? You can't see that as racist ?

I'll say it again (I wish I could find smaller words for you): in the south, Aboriginal people grow up, taking for granted and/or knowing what they are not: NOT non-Aboriginal, not white. Some are dark, some are as pale as buggery, but that's how they have been raised, usually by Aboriginal mothers, who in turn were raised by Aboriginal mothers - however they (not you) defined 'Aboriginal'.

Can you get it through your thick heads that YOU do NOT dictate to Aboriginal people from your Olympian thrones. Can you grasp how fatuously racist your half-baked ideas are ?

What Tillotson said about Trump ........

Now, is there any chance that we can get back to the topic ?