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Discovering the real history of our peoples : Comments
By Graham Young, published 1/9/2017The uproar over the use of the word 'discover' is the latest skirmish in a war over two equally mythical views of Australian history.
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Amen to that, Hasbeen!
Posted by Is Mise, Tuesday, 5 September 2017 9:48:25 PM
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Dear Minotaur,
Thank You for listing just some of the achievements. The following links may be of interest: http://www.australiancollaboration.com.au/pdf/FactSheets/Common-misconceptions-Indigenous-FactSheet.pdf http://theconversation.com/aboriginal-people-how-to-misunderstand-their-science-23835 http://theconversation.com/finding-meteorite-impacts-in-aboriginal-oral-tradition-38052 http://theconversation.com/why-our-kids-should-learn-aboriginal-history-24196 Posted by Foxy, Wednesday, 6 September 2017 10:47:40 AM
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Dear Joe (Loudmouth),
Here is a link from ANU: http://press-files.anu.edu.au/downloads/press/p70821/pdf/introduction11.pdf Posted by Foxy, Wednesday, 6 September 2017 10:52:55 AM
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Foxy,
A pity that they didn't manage to think of the wheel. Posted by Is Mise, Wednesday, 6 September 2017 10:54:22 AM
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Dear Is Mise,
You stated that it was a pity that Aboriginal people did not manage to think of the wheel. Why should they? I've taken this from the web. There's even more on the web if instead of insulting - you are really interested in the subject. There are four basic reasons that are listed: They did not have heavy items that required being transported over long distances. They did not have beasts of burden (unless you imagine that they could have harnessed several kangaroos or a few dozen wombats - cute, but unrealistic). They did not enslave any large numbers of people to replace the role of the beasts of burden. And finally, the terrain in most parts of Australia was not easily suited to the use of a wheel without developing massive roadways which would have been a massive undertaking without any discernible benefit. Furthermore, the implication that the Aboriginal people did not understand the concept that ROUND THINGS ROLL is highly offensive. Even slater beetles and dung beetles understand that round things roll. Traditional Aboriginal people understood how to live in perfect harmony with their environment, as well as the premise that led to human powered wing flight. They understood the fundamental effects of force on round things. I believe if they were shown a wheel ten thousand years ago they would have said "what a nice child's toy." The real question is: "Since everyone used spears, how come not many people came up with the woomera?" Posted by Foxy, Wednesday, 6 September 2017 11:46:37 AM
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Hi Joe, when it came to Aboriginal people being forced off their land it wasn't a matter of 'probably' it was certain. While the experiences in SA are regarded as some of less violent and more accommodating in other places it was the opposite. It even continued to happen after WW1 when white returned soldiers were given land grants. As land soon became in short supply in NSW the government 'acquired' land that had been farms run for generations by Aborigines or took Aboriginal reserves and forced the people to move.
As to the question of what may have happened if the British hadn't decided to come...well it is rather moot isn't it. However, history does show that some things were quite different about the Australian situation. Firstly, it was taken under false pretences in that it was considered by the Brits to be an empty land. I doubt other nations would have been so bold. Then there is the issue of there never being any treaties made, which is quite different from other 'colonisations', including New Zealand Posted by minotaur, Wednesday, 6 September 2017 1:57:09 PM
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