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Death of a parliament : Comments

By Everald Compton, published 25/8/2017

In my schooldays in the bush, the farmers around my little timber town often had the unpleasant task of putting down an animal.

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Contrary to the authors view, opposition to the gay radical march over the top of everything traditional in this country, is actually popular. The Liberals persistence with this course, is actually a positive sign.
Posted by diver dan, Friday, 25 August 2017 7:31:21 AM
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Parliament is indeed dysfunctional, as is democracy. “ It just (SSM) needed a simple vote in both Houses”.

No! It did not. 'It' needed the plebiscite promised by Turnbull. A vote by mere politicians on something as important as the Marriage Act is not democracy.

The obsession with SSM, with barely a mention of serious matters like debt, safety, immigration and so on certainly points to dysfunction of parliament and the lunacy of our politicians.

Everald, there is NO “basic human right” to marriage for homosexuals. And, while you might find the citizenship requirements for serving in parliament “stupid”, the are LAW, which brings us to another sign of dysfunction – the referral of the matter to the Left-leaning High Court, when the whole thing is plain for everyone to see in the Constitution. None of the exposed idiots has the right to be in parliament!

And, no thanks: we don't need “a Party of the Centre”. We need clear cut choices.

Finally what is this nonsense about a “ highly qualified batch of candidates...” ? There are NO qualifications for politicians – just one more reason for the dysfunction.
Posted by ttbn, Friday, 25 August 2017 10:01:05 AM
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A "natural party of government" is a bad thing because it destroys accountability. Far better to have multiple parties competing for the centre ground.
Posted by Aidan, Friday, 25 August 2017 10:17:37 AM
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Yes Everald, but those were the days my friend, where we thought they'd never end. Oh yes those were the days. La, la, la, la, la. La,la, la, la, la, la, oh yes, those were the days.

The days when we, using rare future vision coupled to DTE common sense and bipartisan pragmatism, grew an economy out of a basket case, war torn economy, to become the third wealthiest nation on the planet and a creditor one at that.

Yes things, places, people change, just not the very fundamentals of success, a couple of which is the provision of affordable power and shelter as a basic human right, rather than an investment per se!

And very much in vogue when our westminster system of government was populated by unpaid volunteering politicians, as opposed to seemingly failed professionals and bankrupts going somewhere to happen, trying to impose failed ideological imperatives on the nation!?

Allegedly to make a real difference! And haven't they succeeded beyond our wildest expectations?

And took the third wealthiest nation on the planet, and a creditor one at that, who still owned their economic sovereignty!

To one way down among the banana republics, below number thirty, and crawling with carpetbagging foreign investors. Only kept afloat by holes in the ground, controlled or wholly owned by foreign investors.

Moreover, the only real ideas emanating out of Canberra, is more of the same!?

Only more so! Doubled, trebled, trembling in trepidation, timidity personified and would you like fries with that?

Bold new ideas? How quaint! Old, obsolete, deleted, discontinued and off the menu!

Try across the ditch? Where they seem to have more people than power hungry, power for its own sake, polly want a cracker, pollies.
Alan B.
Posted by Alan B., Friday, 25 August 2017 11:22:41 AM
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Hi there TTBN...

You are clearly wrong my friend when you say there are no qualification for politicians? There is a very important qualification needed; whether LNP, Labour, Greens or Independents? It's honesty; personal integrity; morality; and ethicality. Any person who enter's politics at any stratum, either federal, state, or local government: - Endowed with these simple virtues, will have the electorate eating out of their hands.
Posted by o sung wu, Friday, 25 August 2017 1:31:00 PM
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'Death of a parliament' or disregard for those 'punters'(sic)?

"Greens ignore democracy in Australia Day switch
Herald Sun
August 22, 2017 9:00pm

IF ever the Greens’ true agenda in running for local government was in doubt, this past week has demonstrated their purpose is far from improving local communities.

The Greens in recent years have mounted a concerted effort to win council seats, particularly in inner-suburban areas, not to provide efficient services for ratepayers but to use council as a platform to impose social change and activism.

Of course, these councillors are democratically elected but what is far from democratic is their arbitrary dictates — at both Yarra and now Darebin councils — to jettison Australia Day. These councils have absolutely no mandate to rob their communities of a national day where Australians celebrate what is good and decent about our multicultural country or take a pledge of citizenship.

The City of Yarra polled 281 residents, and conducted a survey of 88 indigenous people, from its population of some 90,000, and the City of Darebin had the audacity to survey 81 of its 147,000 population before banning Australia Day. Not only do these actions ignore the concept of democracy, neither council had any mandate from constituents when they were elected in October. But even more fundamentally, local government — regardless of what councillors’ personal views are — has no business intruding into national and societal issues.

According to the Local Government Act 1989, the function of council is to act in the best interests of the local community; provide services and facilities; maintain community infrastructure; undertake land use planning; collect rates; enforce local laws and oversee peace, order and good government. The Andrews Government needs to review local government legislation to prohibit the use of ratepayer funds for socio-political activism outside of council purview. We see it all the time with climate change junkets and marriage equality advocacy. While the Act says councils need to take into account the “diverse needs” of their communities that does not mean to the detriment of others or the majority."
Posted by leoj, Friday, 25 August 2017 3:18:23 PM
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o sung wu,

I didn't think of that. I don't think too many of our lot qualify.
Posted by ttbn, Friday, 25 August 2017 3:33:53 PM
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' The City of Yarra polled 281 residents, and conducted a survey of 88 indigenous people, from its population of some 90,000, and the City of Darebin had the audacity to survey 81 of its 147,000 population before banning Australia Day. '

says it all Leoj drain the swamp!

why do you think the regressives have so desperately tried to stop a plebisite on changing the definition of marriage. They are petrified that the majority don't agree with them.
Posted by runner, Friday, 25 August 2017 3:39:46 PM
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When the smelly, decayed convicts staggered onto Sydney Cove they saw the gentlemen raise the national flag . With tears and men hugs they punched the air , scratched the lice and raffled the whip-lash . It's our day they shouted , dirt by sea.
Posted by nicknamenick, Friday, 25 August 2017 4:18:39 PM
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for we are young and free.
a Convict tried to escape Port Arthur by disguising himself as a kangaroo. In hindsight, it wasn't a clever idea as the guards saw the kangaroo and used it as target practice.
Convict Escape Attempts - Convict Creations
www.convictcreations.com/history/escapes.htm
Posted by nicknamenick, Friday, 25 August 2017 5:08:14 PM
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runner,

Gold Coast Mayor, Tom Tate had a lake drained to locate a Stone Fish spotted by some eagle-eyed, public-spirited citizen (a good thing too!). They will finish the job properly because where there is one there could be more. A good opportunity for a clean up anyhow.
http://www.mygc.com.au/council-captures-gold-coast-stonefish-draining-evandale-lake/

Goodness knows what might be found if any of those political swamps were ever drained. But the humble stone fish might look safe and cuddly compared with them.
Posted by leoj, Friday, 25 August 2017 6:17:58 PM
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OSW: There is a very important qualification needed; whether LNP, Labour, Greens or Independents? It's honesty; personal integrity; morality; and ethicality.

Well there ya go, OSW. By my guess they have all failed that test.
Posted by Jayb, Friday, 25 August 2017 6:30:48 PM
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Somehow, I think you may agree with me JAYB when I say; all our politicians should attend a quaint little place, just south of Wagga Wagga in NSW. Bearing the interesting title of; No.1 RTB, Kapooka, and spend a leisurely six months or so there. Whereby they'll receive some quite unique therapy learning those most basic of skills, in an endeavour they may soon become a principled and righteous individual. And in so doing, adopting those values, and principles necessary to gain respect from all those around them, for the rest of their lives.

Furthermore, they happen to have a number of excellent preceptors available thereat, who'll willingly dedicate their time and knowledge, to carefully render those important values in ways they'll be easily inculcated into the hearts and minds of those hitherto; ineffectual and ineffective political quislings. So mote it be.
Posted by o sung wu, Friday, 25 August 2017 7:55:22 PM
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Those things we need to set us free and able to once again chart our own economic course/regain our patently purloined economic sovereignty, are quite deliberately withheld! Arguably, by the major parties and a confected competition for votes/power.

Because no matter who wins, nothing much of real importance or vision based reform happens! Just more blah blah blah/theatre of the ridiculous and pollies setting up their post retirement options/lifestyles! IT'S ALL ABOUT THEM!?

Some mealy mouthed examples successful beyond the wildest expectations? With one notable example now owning 123 negatively geared houses! Another with a veritable fortune squirreled away in a tax shelter?

Others with power company or mining shares, that could be rendered virtually worth by the rollout of affordable thorium based power!? WHY DO YOU THINK WE DON'T/WILL NEVER EVER HAVE IT?

And as long as these folk are owned by the real decision makers, nation building decentralization won't happen, or be leaked out at snail's pace, so as to not rock the boat and the tinned people approach that creates the most profit for the money men/media moguls?

Because at the end of the day that's is all that matters to our alleged parliamentarians and the reason we almost alone in the so called advanced nations still do not have a bill of irrevocable rights! Let alone very doable affordable power or truly affordable housing!

Moreover, as long as this remains so, the ship of state can set every inch of economic sail and only advance at a virtual glacial speed due entirely to these two factors/economic anchors, holding us and the nation back!

As this happens, enslaving most of us and our pocket books, like cogs compelled to turn at the whim and caprice of the CONSUMER/MARKET DRIVEN madman at the wheel!

Don't take my word for it, just look at the disappearing middle class and the ever widening gap between the haves and the have nots!
Alan B.
Posted by Alan B., Saturday, 26 August 2017 11:03:11 AM
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Nothing will change for the better until we rid ourselves of our current electoral system and introduce proportional representation. The UK and US also have the same problem - an outdated, anti-democratic voting system that solidifies oligarchic rule by two interchangeable big parties that are increasingly out of touch and hopelessly corrupted.
Posted by Killarney, Saturday, 26 August 2017 5:49:17 PM
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Hear,hear and well said Killarney!
Alan B.
Posted by Alan B., Saturday, 26 August 2017 5:58:30 PM
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A left whinger wants a fresh election. What a shocker.
Posted by Shadow Minister, Saturday, 26 August 2017 6:59:15 PM
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Killarney: two interchangeable big parties that are increasingly out of touch and hopelessly corrupted.

Well I can't argue against that. The, "Whatever you're for we're against." The motto of both Major Parties.
Posted by Jayb, Saturday, 26 August 2017 7:16:25 PM
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Everyone agrees with Kim Jong-Un and dances in the streets when he gets a haircut or deletes America. His embassy in Canberra will re-open after great Australian leader learns from Kim and gets 95% of the clapping.
Posted by nicknamenick, Saturday, 26 August 2017 8:32:44 PM
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Nicknamenick..

I'm watching you..(OO)

Definition of Multiculturalism:

The Immigration Restriction Act 1901 (White Australia Policy) was one of the world's oddest race-based government policies in that much of the impetus for it came from white men who liked and respected non-white races to the point they felt inferior by comparison.

Nothing changes then, left whinges continue to worship the ethic, while right whinges continue to capitalise on the ethic of the left whinges, played out in public spaces called Parliaments.

Yours, Billy Blue!
Posted by diver dan, Sunday, 27 August 2017 7:24:08 AM
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When a house is riddled beyond repair with hypothetical dry rot/white ants, the only choice is to knock it down and rebuild from the ground up.

And one who focuses on what unites us rather than what divides us. Moreover, takes on the lessons of history so as to avoid repeating blatant glaring mistakes.

One of which is electing divisive pollies appealing to hate based prejudice! JAWOHL?

The only effect of is to get bogged down in some politic quagmire/sh!t storm that then forestalls esssential overdue reform. Essential overdue reform includes affordable energy! Affordable housing! Decentralization! And drought proofing the nation!

And no not with airy fairy untried solutions borrowed from dream castle dwellers, but practical tried and not found wanting, solutions!

Like Thorium based energy.

Which as it is rolled out as publically funded, owned and operated amenity. Makes the others all possible along with a resuscitated resurgent manufacturing base and more jobs than we have people to fill them!

Parliament is allegedly the competition of ideas! Not a competition of competing, set in hardened concrete, ideological imperatives and further brainwashed into adherence, by nonsense mantras like, government has no business in business!

We might not like socialism but happy to take their money, FTA's, security partnerships ( highly successful socialist Singapore, with its myriad government enterprises) and (growing the economy while depopulating, communist China) trade deals!

Conversely if you want to see just how effective trickle down economics is, you need look no further than the, very nearly bankrupt after a short three year trial, state of Kansas, U.S.A.

Think, the Great depression was in essence a manageable recession, compounded by the application of conservative economic dogma and only rescued by the applied pragmatism of keynesian economics!

That then led to a post war period of unprecedented prosperity and an Australia that was the third wealthiest nation on the planet; and a creditor one at that!

As opposed to one almost mired in record debt, now today! We've come a long way since that period of post war prosperity! And it's all been down!
Alan B.
Posted by Alan B., Sunday, 27 August 2017 11:53:03 AM
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What will kill real estate investment is low wage growth. Rents are already unsustainable.
As property prices continue to escalate, and investors take on ever more debt, returns from property investment will fall.

Australia must be near breaking point. Home ownership is totally unaffordable, with the exception of the well paid permanent employee, all new starters now rent.

The fall back position for renters in arrears, is life on the street. If you wonder what official sympathy is awaiting these people, look to the dismantling of the homeless camp in Martin Place as the example: New laws enacted to outlaw homelessness, and the mass branding of the homeless as mentally deficient.

Public housing is no panacea. Privatisation of this sector has rendered those unaffordable and of little benefit to the new homeless.

Politicians ignore this reality and feature gay marriage as the parliamentary priority. Something is seriously amiss with either their reasoning, or their own personal moral guidance system.
Posted by diver dan, Sunday, 27 August 2017 4:09:49 PM
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Martin Place tent developers are fitting heaters into estate assets . 12 Stocks to Buy Now
NASA: A Nuclear Reactor To Replace Your Water Heater.
Instead, a low-energy nuclear reactor (LENR) uses common, stable elements like nickel, carbon, and hydrogen to produce stable products like copper or nitrogen, along with heat and electricity.
"You would have a unit that would replace your water heater. And you would have some sort of cycle to derive electrical energy from that."
Posted by nicknamenick, Sunday, 27 August 2017 4:28:14 PM
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NNN

Invest in the greens as the latest in laser guidance technology for guiding Australian Governments...two candidates vying for CEO position of this wiz bang start up company, are a very likeable and trustworthy citizen in William Shorten, and the other more senior candidate with big eyeballs, fit for staring down greedy power company's, in Mal Turnbull.

During an interview on ABC RN. Both conceded the possibility of a dead heat, and agreed to sharing the same bed if push came to shove!
Posted by diver dan, Sunday, 27 August 2017 7:37:53 PM
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That would mean lying straight in bed , and on the level eye-to-eye both would be blind. The building will be privatised, funded and sterilised for a Thorium Balanced Budget Super Fund.
Posted by nicknamenick, Sunday, 27 August 2017 8:01:02 PM
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Oh NNN

…didn't mean to be rude, but forgot to mention, I caught a Uber to Martin Place to check out the tent city estate asset installations you mentioned; alas you are mistaken.

They were actually power outlets fit only for Hong Kong electric razors. I imagine the innovation is to assist Chinese to disguise themselves when feeding millions of untaxed rent money into CBA ATM’s from annoying white Caucasian renter trash, who abuse the Chinese mother in laws when picking up tax free rent from multiple properties around the city Saturday mornings.
Posted by diver dan, Sunday, 27 August 2017 8:04:40 PM
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Commonwealth bank IDM reactors accept rent , bribes and recycled plastic bags for Thorium crack. The Shanghai Institute’s effort to develop coke reactors reflects China’s nuclear ambitions. Already, the government has invested some two billion Chinese renminbi ($300 million) , no one’s ever actually hooked Thorium up to nomad tents. Yet the Chinese government expects to have a commercial-size plant up and running at Martin Place, helping to revive the street nuclear power industry.
Posted by nicknamenick, Monday, 28 August 2017 7:16:52 AM
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