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Australians overseas - and doing drugs : Comments

By Mirko Bagaric, published 23/9/2005

Mirko Bagaric argues Australian citizens who commit drug offences overseas deserve our help.

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Why should she and alike must be freed in Indonesia?

Because of a more flexible Australian law? Or because they are better than local slaves for being born in a different tribe?

Would any Indos be spared in Melbourne if bent-over 78 year pensioner at her house because of a natural urge caused with a long absence of an affordable partner in Australia?

In Rome do as Romans do.
Posted by MichaelK., Wednesday, 28 September 2005 4:53:43 PM
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MichaelK,

Suggest you learn English first before you post your opinions. Your opinions may be valid, but better to have them translated first..please....
Posted by rogindon, Wednesday, 28 September 2005 5:41:19 PM
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rogindon

The Indonesian court found Schappelle Corby guilty.

You profoundly state that she is innocent. Thus you must be privy to information which exonerates Schappelle, and which the courts do not have. Why didn't you share this information with the Australian Government? Had you done so - surely she would now be free? How can you live with your conscience if you have such informed and vital information?

Please tell us all of your irrefutable information to free Schappelle.

Cheers
Kay
Posted by kalweb, Wednesday, 28 September 2005 7:26:53 PM
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Kalweb “Please tell us all of your irrefutable information to free Schappelle.”

I totally Agree

I was going to respond with same or contest the same statement but it is nicer to agree with someone.

Viz

Indonesian Customs Officer (ICO) “Excuse me, is this your bag”

Corby “Yes this is my bag”

ICO “Open IT”

Corby opens bag

ICO “ Why are your carrying this 4kg + bag of Drugs in your bag”

Corby “Oh I don’t know that must belong to someone else”

ICO “Do I look like I have just fallen out of a tree, smartass?”

We are responsible for our own actions as well as our own luggage – Corby’s excuses are just “excuses” – lame and pathetic – seeing the way she “performed” on TV would tend to confirm it.

Barlow and Chambers should have used the same excuse – or the Bali 9 – using the Corby “irrefutable” defence (per rogindon) - “Oh those drugs strapped to my thigh ? They must belong to someone else!”

Yeah – drug dealers have been known to tell lies – and as a measure of “character” (or absence thereof), are more likely to lie than tell the truth.

As for “Is anyone able to refute the fact that Howard, Downer and Beazley lied on this issue?”

rogindon you are the one who is making the claims – So show us the “irrefutable Evidence” that they lied as well as the “irrefutable Evidence” of Corby’s innocence
Posted by Col Rouge, Thursday, 29 September 2005 10:05:33 AM
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To Rogindon

.....can you, or anyone else tell me why the judges have requested another thirty days to make a decision on Ms. Corby's appeal?
Posted by finbar, Thursday, 29 September 2005 10:32:01 AM
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To Kalweb and Col Rouge
Now it seems to me that you guys both completely missed my point. I DO NOT have conclusive proof that Schapelle Corby is innocent. But I DO have complete proof that she is not guilty beyond a reasonable doubt. This is all that any justice system requires. It is all that the Indonesian criminal justice system requires on paper. Article 66 of the Indonesian Criminal Procedural Code (KUHAP) states: “The onus of proof is NOT on the Defendant”. Given that no one has been able to prove beyond a reasonable doubt either her guilt or her innocence, then she must be freed.

Now regarding the PROBABILITY that she is guilty or not, we have all seen much of the evidence. There was no motive (marijuana is cheaper in Bali than in Australia); there is no fingerprint evidence; there is indisputable evidence of criminal gangs involved in drug smuggling running rampant in our airports (including a criminal gang in operation at Sydney airport on October 8, 2004); there is no CCTV footage or record of the weight of her bags at check-in at Brisbane Airport on October 8, 2004 to suggest 4 kg of marijuana was in her bag; and in evidence to the Denpasar District Court on August 3 a Brisbane Airport employee said that he would have been able to smell the marijuana if it had passed through check-in at that time and there was nothing suspicious about Corby’s bag. This is only a part of the evidence casting doubt on her conviction. Her demeanour has been completely consistent with innocence. When Channel Nine ran a feature in May presenting all the evidence both for the Prosecution and for the Defence, the poll conducted immediately afterwards showed that 8% considered her guilty and 92% innocent.

The Government and the Department of Foreign Affairs and Trade are unanimous that we must not risk relations with Indonesia over the Corby case. But at the end of the day, Schapelle will have to spend the next 19 years in jail for a crime she didn’t commit.
Posted by rogindon, Thursday, 29 September 2005 4:33:55 PM
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