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Retirement village living: the good, the bad and the (downright) ugly : Comments

By Sue Malta, published 28/6/2017

The current communication and dispute resolution practices between owners/operators and their residents is flawed.

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For interest, I checked the recent report of the Australian National Audit Office (ANAO) to find positive findings on the delivery of culturally appropriate services to indigenous aged. Report,

http://www.anao.gov.au/work/performance-audit/indigenous-aged-care

I guess that the media outlets are not interested in good outcomes by government.

However, over the years the ANAO has reported negative findings concerning aged care provision affecting the 'mainstream' population. Such as frail bed-ridden not being turned or washed and developing pressure point sores and ulcers.

What concerns me especially is the persistent, unfair pressure on older people to sell and move out of the homes they have lived in for many years and where they raised their family and are accustomed to facilities, doctors, shops and so on.

There is overwhelming independent research evidence that older people are much more cheaply supported and live better lives, where they are encouraged, or should that now be 'allowed'? :( to continue living as life as independently as possible in their existing home. Supply targeted services at their request is the solution.

However, greedy entrepreneurs and selfish young employed people want their land and politicians, ever lurking where money is flowing, are putting pressure on old people as well. For example, through land rates that are increased in line with inflation (Why so?), diminished rebates for aged and as a general rule, user pays for everything.

Politicians and others who should know better are using wedge politics to divide and conquer.

Recently on the Gold Coast there was a suicide pact of three older women. While not wanting to enter into any debate about euthanasia/suicide, one wonders what influence Australia's (read as successive federal governments') rather harsh, uncaring social attitudes to aged and lack of interest in setting new directions for older people had on that.

Overseas countries are setting about challenging ageism and finding value in older citizens. There is a need for tailored strategies.

But the Australian Parliament has been preoccupied with gay marriage and for years! What the hell are voters thinking of, electing these clowns on both sides of the Parliament?
Posted by leoj, Thursday, 29 June 2017 12:33:01 PM
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Foxy.

Unless people in this country actually stop winging and become proactive, the endless plunder of our society by Capitalist pigs will not stop.

We are close on the heels of Chilea. It's as if Chilea is the litmus model of rampant capitalism followed by Australia, but pulled up short of the point of public protest.

The view here is much more sinister. The official alterations to our demography by Chinese immigration is assuring capatlist innovations are painless to the winners.
Posted by diver dan, Thursday, 29 June 2017 3:27:45 PM
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Dear DD,

I guess many people don't even think about the problems
involved with things like aged care - because it does not
affect them - yet.

It will be a different story however when their turn
comes around, either for a relative or themselves.
But then it will be too late. The time for action is now.
But you're right, how do we get people to be pro-active?
Perhaps more publicity on what really goes on in aged
care facilities - along the lines of the 4 Corners program
could help. At least programs like that may warn future
buyers of what to look out for when selecting a facility.
Posted by Foxy, Thursday, 29 June 2017 4:52:11 PM
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There is a very simple solution to this problem;
Strata Title !

I live in a retirement village that is strata title.
The legal owner is the body corporate who are elected by the residents.
We own our unit and when we purchased it 10% of the price was a loan
to the body corporate. This loan depreciates by 10% a year so if you
leave before 10 years you get the remainder.
Also on sale, either by the manager's sales officer, or by your own
selected agent.
The manager's commission is higher but there are no advertising charges.
25% of the capital gain goes to the corporate body.
Nothing is paid if there is a capital loss.

The manager is employed by the corporate body.
They employ the groundsmen who do the gardening and maintenance around the village.
The quarterly body corporate fee is not cheap
Most villages are leased for 99 years.
One of the big problems with leased licence villages is the departure fee.
In one case we looked at the departure fee would have been $250,000
and if one had to go into a nursing home there may not have been
enough to pay for the nursing home and buy a home unit somewhere.

We have been happy here and have made a lot of friends.
There is from time to time disputes with the corporate body but this
is just like in any organisation.
There is a swimming pool, a croquet court and a bowling green.
There is also a group that play table tennis.

All in all we made a good choice.
Posted by Bazz, Sunday, 2 July 2017 3:06:43 PM
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A friend of mine was in a leased village that we looked at and he
was very happy there. We almost bought in on his recommendation but
the departure fee turned us off.
So they are not all nightmares to live in.
Posted by Bazz, Sunday, 2 July 2017 3:13:42 PM
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