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By Mark Christensen, published 23/6/2017The most intriguing aspect is the inability of insiders to provide a coherent account of what is actually going on. How did Donald Trump, you know, happen?
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Posted by diver dan, Saturday, 24 June 2017 11:33:21 AM
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I think author John Michael Greer sums it up well
"Like rats, crows, and feral swine, we’re invasive, omnivorous, and adaptable; we’ve evolved some unusual cognitive and behavioral tricks, but we’re not above or outside nature in any sense that matters. We evolved from other species long after life emerged on this planet, and we’ll go extinct long before life dies out. However important we may be to ourselves and each other—just as rats are important to other rats, for good reason, and swine to other swine—in the greater scheme of things, we’re a temporary perturbation in the damp film that covers one small rocky world in an ordinary solar system on the fringes of an ordinary galaxy, and that’s all we will ever be. Most traditional religions embraced a similarly modest sense of our place in the cosmos, though the details differed for a range of reasons. Our contemporary self importance, by contrast, insists that humanity is destined to bestride the stars, outlive the sun, give meaning and purpose to the cosmos, and so on. That enthusiastic embrace of the quality the ancient Greeks called “hubris” is its distinctive feature. It’s also its distinctive flaw, because—as an honest scientific assessment of our limited gifts and vast dependencies could have predicted a long time ago—the project of living like gods isn’t working too well for us these days. Despite the increasingly shrill claims of Man’s devout worshippers, what’s more, it shows no signs of working any better in the foreseeable future—quite the contrary, in fact." Cheers Geoff Posted by Geoff of Perth, Sunday, 25 June 2017 1:37:58 AM
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This link will show the total disintegration of so called educated western students holding a graduation ceremony as opposed to how the Russian graduation ceremony is total class.
Just compare the 2 the answer to what the future holds is in front of you. http://www.thesun.co.uk/news/3877298/russia-students-graduation-posh-oxford-graduates-shame/ Don't have to read the pictures say it all. Posted by Philip S, Sunday, 25 June 2017 6:30:05 PM
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How Trump got into the White House is simple. Hillary Goldman Sachs Clinton and her collaborator Debbie Wasserman Schultz delivered him by rigging the primary ballot to exclude Bernie Sanders as the Democrats' presidential candidate, when Sanders was on a roll that would have reduced Trump to single digits.
Posted by EmperorJulian, Tuesday, 27 June 2017 1:55:38 PM
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Occasionally, you get these laughable "the west is bereft of spiritualty" puff pieces from left wing ideologues, who just can't stand the idea that most people in the western world are happy with their lives. Mark Christiansen wants everybody in the western world to be a miserable and unhappy as he is.
Now, when Mark is talking about "spirituality", he is not talking about religion or Johnny Walker Black Label. No, he is talking about how utterly awful it is that most people in the west are quite happy with their consumer lifestyles, and they are not interested in Saving the World, like he does. "Spiritualty" is a euphemism for a left wing worldview devoid of common sense or intellect. "Spiritual" people hate Trump. "Spiritual" people want to Save the World. "Spiritual" people ignore the fact that the west has provided the world with the model for economic success and personnel freedom. "Spiritual" people support every left wing cause imaginable, especially white self loathing. You can be a "spiritual" person if you like, Mark. It's still largely a free country, despite the best efforts of "spiritual" people like your good self to turn it into a Brave New World ruled by an aristocracy of "spiritual" bureaucrats. But I prefer to be a rational person who uses reason and intellect to find answers to life's problems. "Spiritualism" is the antithesis of intellectualism If you really need to understand Mark's mindset, you have to understand that there exists within all human societies a not insignificant minority of people who have a compulsive need to believe that they are morally above reproach, and superior human beings than every body else in society. Not only that, they feel a compulsive need to display their superiority. Like humans everywhere, they form an "us and them" class which sneers at both their lower class social inferiors, as well as the higher status business class (who are usually their parents.) Mark Christiansen's article therefore, is simply a manifesto attesting to his membership of this intermediate Brahmin caste of "spiritual" pseudo intellectuals. It's all your ego, stupid. Posted by LEGO, Thursday, 29 June 2017 4:38:49 AM
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I think the quote Spritual unquote that Lego is deriding can best be described as giving a tuppenny stuff for people beyond me me me.
Posted by EmperorJulian, Thursday, 29 June 2017 11:00:45 AM
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Capitalism pretends to present inclusiveness, but actually thrives on exclusion. (The doctrine of Competition).
All religions operate on the same level of exclusion. Capitalism has built itself on a grounding of the same belief. It is in direct competition with the many and varied Gods of world religions.
In the Christian religion, for example, Capitalism is presented as the devil tempting Christ in the 40 day sojourn in desert.
The devil is the fallen angel given free reign over the world, so the defeat of religion is seen as inevitable. But, God will win when he eventually "pulls the pin" and steps up the evolutionary processes of the universe. The first signs will be ecological collapse.