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Terror as opportunity: exploiting the London attacks : Comments

By Binoy Kampmark, published 8/6/2017

Khan has reminded the prime minister that talk of robust security is all dandy, until you realise that cuts of up to 10 to 40 per cent in police numbers have been implemented.

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Business as usual politics and grandstanding politicians, won't cut it, except as petrol on the flames!

Yes, if we apply enough force, sacrifice enough lives, this stuff can be suppressed and driven underground to fester and fester or power up like a hydrated volcano building and building irrepressible pressure!

Our job, whether we like or want it or not, is to win hearts and minds, and entirely unnecessary Tory preferred austerity, replete with social injustice and inequity, that only protects those, who by and large, created these (GFC) problems, isn't the answer!

We need a very different far more inclusive template that picks folks up, as opposed to first leaving them behind, then steamrolling/crushing them with quite massive inbuilt inequity/injustice.

Manifesting as unprecedented attacks on the very modest indeed, living standards/future prospects of the most vulnerable! That just gives ever increasing opportunities for racial recruitment!

We need a two pronged attack, to #1 exterminate evil extremists! #2 eliminate the reasons they use to recruit those, with nothing left to lose!?

And that's only possible if they again have skin in the game, or something of value left to lose! e.g., Affordable health, education, housing, energy, replete with inherently fair (what you'd do it for) reward for their time and labour!

Diabolically dumb, divide and rule, patently puerile politics,(fuel on flames of massive discontent) won't cut it!

But maybe, just maybe bipartisan pragmatism coupled to still untried and or, resisted to the last Tory, inclusive policies just might?
Alan B.
Posted by Alan B., Thursday, 8 June 2017 12:02:49 PM
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failed multiculturalism and immigration. Pollies still to gutless to act. The more Islamic immigration the worse outcome for all other citizens. Don't see Buddhist, Hindus or Jews caqusing terror on the street. Then again I suppose they have not got Mohammed as their role model.
Posted by runner, Thursday, 8 June 2017 12:10:29 PM
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What a pile of deluded garbage.

Binoy Your ideology is so thick that you can't even see through it to the trees, let alone see the wood for the trees.

With your ideology you have no right to even utter the words human rights. Obviously your idea of human rights has nothing to do with the average citizens human right to not be bombed, blown up or killed by ratbags with a bloodthirsty religion as excuse.

Your anti establishment attitude completely blinds you to the requirement to remove, by what ever means works, these ratbags from civil society. With that attitude you would have been still defending Hitler's human rights as he marched through Europe.

Time to have a good look at your self, & the actual meaning of this garbage you are preaching. Time to grow up in fact, drop the hate, & join the race, the human race that is.
Posted by Hasbeen, Thursday, 8 June 2017 1:39:08 PM
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One thing we can all be assured of with this individual Binoy KAMPMARK, aimlessly wandering about Melbourne's RMIT. By permitting him to even access to our young people at the RMIT, Melbourne. Australia as we all know it, is assuredly buggered it really is. My only suggestion for the deluded MR. KAMPMARK, he should perhaps, seek a legitimate job or, return forthwith to Selwyn College Cambridge, and stop peddling his arrant nonsense behind the ablutions, in any one of our many eminent learning Institutions.
Posted by o sung wu, Thursday, 8 June 2017 2:47:57 PM
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Hi o sung wu, how yer going mate?

The climate could do with a bit of global warming right now. Even up here it's getting a bit too cold these mornings for an old bloke.

I guess that is one advantage of articles by these dills. They get you so hot under the collar, you are at least warmed up for a few minutes.

Hope you're doing well down there.

The services aren't what they used to be mate, I don't think you would like it much today. The boy has just done 3 months reserve service. He was only half way home when they were after him again to go back & do 6 months.

He told them he would go back & give them 6 weeks for their next little cruise, but only if they finally pay him for his transport down there for this last stint. In 3 months they have not managed to organise compensation for his last trip down, let alone the cost of getting home.

I hope we don't have a serious need for our current defence force in the near future, I don't think they could handle much at all.
Posted by Hasbeen, Thursday, 8 June 2017 5:50:12 PM
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Hi there HASBEEN...

I suspect neither of us would last too long in any of the Services these days. With their high priority on 'political correctness', as demonstrated by that, Chief of the Army, who proudly announced how he'd weeded out, all those male members who dare to vocalize how very attractive and fetching a female member may look, while on duty.

Even though the young female member may be especially appealing and alluring in her uniform, as she saunters effortlessly past you, with a mere whiff of her delicate perfume. After all, the military is now a 'sexless' organisation, and while homosexuality is permitted, normal heterosexual urges and desires, are strictly contrary to normal, Military Discipline.

I dunno mate I reckon the country is beyond 'economic' repair now! And 'political correctness' is by far, the most potent weapon of the far 'Left'. Despite all that, take it easy anyway ol' mate, and try to inculcate those fine values you learned in the Military. Into that young boy of yours, while you were a Navy Pilot, all those years ago.
Posted by o sung wu, Thursday, 8 June 2017 9:02:15 PM
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The London attacks had been a eye opener on how security should be taking very serious.
Posted by rollyczar, Friday, 9 June 2017 1:57:37 AM
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Analysing Bin Kampfmark's writing style, it goes like this.

Make a bunch of ridiculous allegations in the tone of either moral outrage or injured innocence, which claim that the people who oppose the continuation of your comfortable and exceedingly well paid position as a Human Righrts watchdog, are somehow and somewhere, doing something dastardly.

Britain is now on the brink of civil war, a war made necessary by the idea that people who wish to destroy your civilisation have a 'Human Right" to claim that they are "refugees" and then just barge into your country. To counter this stupidity, Kampmark blames everybody and everything for this situation, instead of the real reason. Kampfmark claims it is "austerity", which caused a cutback in police and security force numbers. It is the usual socialist crap. Just spend more money and everything is hunky dory.

Next Kampfmark whips himself into a self righteous frenzy deploring to reduction of civil liberties to terrorists. He implies that the leaders of Britain are using terrorism to turn Britain into a police state. Even OLO's Daffy Duck is not stupid enough to believe that.

Don't you just love how this guy thinks? First you demand that people from hostile cultures who's value system are diametrically opposed to your own, to immigrate into your society on the grounds of "equality" and "non racism." This religion demands the overthrow of the government of your country in favour of a theocracy. Then you continue to insist that this idiocy continue long after the consequences of that stupid decision begin to manifest themselves with very high levels of criminal behaviour , welfare dependency, and terrorism.

When it becomes screamingly obvious that your society's laws can no longer cope with religious nutcases who bomb children's pop concerts, or who run deliberately mass murder pedestrians with trucks, and your leaders need to make your laws more harsh to try and deal with the problem, then Binoy even takes issue with that.

Still, if you have a $350,000 dollar job to protect, then any argument will do. There's one born every minute.
Posted by LEGO, Friday, 9 June 2017 3:34:02 PM
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yes Lego and only secularism could be so stupid to allow this. They trashed Christian culture for 50 years and are now reaping what they have sown.
Posted by runner, Friday, 9 June 2017 3:47:59 PM
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Secularism is no more a belief than not collecting stamps is a hobby. It is refusal to subject citizens to the demands of theocratic
religious cults.

The body count of the Church of Rome's 17 century war against Christianity could send the Moslems green with envy.

And Christianity itself? Gunmen of the UDA, paramilitary arm of the Christian DUP to which the British Tories have allied themselves,
shot a bloke dead in Sainsbury's car park in Belfast in front of his infant son only a week or so ago.

None of this is relevant to the Moslem Fifth Column, but it says something of the cult which runner keeps demanding we should all obey by abandoning secularism.
Posted by EmperorJulian, Monday, 12 June 2017 10:16:36 PM
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