Ignoring patient autonomy in favour of someone else's personal beliefs is not an example of "duty of Care" either.

Given that there are certainly cases of ambiguous genitalia, hermaphrodites and similar, it seems pointless to pretend that brain structures could not display similar variations. What the patient needs or believes is a far more important a consideration than what an uninvolved religious advocate imagines they should.

I wish great frustration and failure to the ACL in this matter.

Rusty.

Armchair Critic,: 'Cis' simply means 'self identifies as the gender they were assigned at birth', it is simple technical term, used since the early 1900s.

It has nothing to do with sexuality by the way. Cis people have all sexualities: homosexual, heterosexual, bisexual and asexual. So do transgender and non-binary people as well.

In the very truest sense no one is 'normal' or 'average'. Everyone belongs to some subgroup, subcategory or another. In fact I'll bet that if we took your major characteristics (height, weight, ethnic background, education. religion, sexuality*, colour, class, even hair colour and type) you'd find you belong to a very small sub-category of humanity. In the very truest sense we are all minorities.

No one is asking you to "change my behavior due to someone else's problem.", unless your behaviour is bigoted and prejudiced. Then you are being asked to change it.

If you are a fairly decent, honest, open minded, polite person then there are no issues are there?

See this for example about the myth of the 'average': https://www.thestar.com/news/insight/2016/01/16/when-us-air-force-discovered-the-flaw-of-averages.html

*Including sexual fantasy. Amazing the huge number of people who act heterosexual but are something quite different in their fantasies.

Hey LisaM,
Thanks for the info.
I don't see you post very often, and I don't want to give you any reason not to post in future so I'm trying to tread carefully.

Quote>>No one is asking you to "change my behavior due to someone else's problem.", unless your behaviour is bigoted and prejudiced. Then you are being asked to change it.<<

I believe in freedom and liberty for everyone; BUT I do not believe that a person should be FORCED to give up their freedoms and liberties so that someone else can have theirs.
In regards to 'bigoted' and 'prejudiced' I'm not likely to treat anyone in the street disrespectfully unless they treat me disrespectfully first, no matter what opinions I hold on this forum.

But I reserve the right to be a bigot, on issues where I think it's valid.
I'm intolerant of 'radical Islam', anyone have a problem?
I'm sure some would; don't care.

You most certainly are attempting to change other people's behaviour by imposing 'Newspeak'.
It doesn't stop there, by deleting words that you feel are inappropriate you're actually trying to change the way people think, which is the real purpose of 'Newspeak'.
Look it up, find out for yourself.

I was raised with the concept 'Who own's the problem?' drilled into me.
It was part of making me learn to take responsibility for myself.

I fully understand what's going on here.
People who don't consider themselves included in the 'normal' category don't want us referring to ourselves as 'normal' because then they will feel excluded, or 'not normal'.

- But I don't own that problem do I?

First you attempt to argue that people who self identify as the gender they were born with aren't normal.
The you try to dilute that further by arguing everyone's different and 'what is normal' attempting to divert from the only real question which is whether your 'straight' or 'not straight'.

I don't care about political correctness.
I'll never buy into it.

LisaM:

If no one is normal or average then why do people with minority sexualities take offence at criticism of their sexuality? If you are not responsible for the way you are born then why would you feel bad when someone derides you for the way you were born? You would only feel bad if it was somehow your responsibility and could be changed. It is irrational to feel bad about what you cannot change.

Constantly we see that people of a minority sexuality take offence and want the state to protect them from being offended. Either they do not agree with your opinion that none of us are normal or they do not accept that it is not their responsibility.

There is a big discrepancy between the way they behave and the argument that no one is normal.

phanto,

"If no one is normal or average then why do people with minority sexualities take offence at criticism of their sexuality?
If you are not responsible for the way you are born then why would you feel bad when someone derides you for the way you were born? "

Please tell me you were drinking (or doing drugs) when you posted that.

LisaM:

Why do you need to ask? Are you uncertain that what I said was so irrational? Wouldn't you just ignore it? How stupid is it to give it more 'oxygen'?