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The Bible is a mainstay of Western life : Comments

By Greg Clarke, published 24/3/2017

Social media last week was peppered with comments such as 'why care about that old book?', 'it's all fairytales' or, more constructively, 'the Bible's teachings are evil'.

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Quoting chapter and verse from a contested belief system or from the writing of students of the book; who have long since passed into history proves nothing, save the unfounded convictions of the believer!

That said some of the quotations have the ring of truth and justice in them. i.e., do unto others as you would be done unto.

Inasmuch as you do unto the least among you, you also do unto me.

And who with even just a scaric of human decency or empathy is going to argue against the good Samaritan parable.

That said, many of the claims pertaining to the Christian Master, have been rewritten and revised completely out of context unless supported by an unmistakable parable that prevented it.i.e., to reach unto the kingdom of heaven ye must be born again!

According to legend, this was a plain speaking man, who knew the overwhelming bulk of his audience was illiterate, and rather than speaking in riddles, needing various and abundant interpretation, he not only said what he meant, (verily verily I say unto you) but at times supported unmistakable teaching with analogy or parable!

Moreover, committed to print some 350 years after the event? With not as much as a single eyewitness account?

Even so, nowhere has this master advocated for celibacy or against gender bias, given we are born who and what we are and determined by our respective DNA! Which was created by the hand of God, allegedly.
Alan B.
Posted by Alan B., Saturday, 25 March 2017 10:31:02 AM
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Reading the blather above (with the rare exception of runner), made me laugh.
Here I was believing the Great War was actually nothing at all related to religion, ( and neither was WWII).

And how inept and backward thinking of me to believe it was actually scientific invention which was responsible for its catastrophic impact on the civilisation of man, and it's huge losses of human life at the end of a gun barrel !
Posted by diver dan, Saturday, 25 March 2017 1:41:29 PM
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That's 10 minutes I will never see again.
Posted by JohnBennetts, Saturday, 25 March 2017 2:05:27 PM
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The bible is no more a mainstay of western life than any other history books written by fallible authors. It should be treated with caution until its propositions can be proven by test.

"Western" culture has grown out of an era of ignorance and superstition which allowed men and organisations, ambitious for power and wealth, to dominate uneducated individuals, much in the style of present day cultist fashions.
It alarms me to see fellow humans calling upon imaginary beings, or fictional texts, for aid during activities for which they are personally completely responsible.
As the classic line from Inviticus recounts: "I am the captain of my fate, I am the master of my soul".
Posted by Ponder, Saturday, 25 March 2017 8:14:30 PM
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mikk

<The bible is a horror story of murder, manipulation, lying, genocide, and evil ...>

AND misogyny:

‘Let the women learn in silence with all subjection. But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence.’ (I Timothy 2:11-14)

‘For the man is not of the woman; but the woman of the man. Neither was the man created for the woman; but the woman for the man.’ (I Corinthians 11:8-9)

‘For from garments cometh a moth, and from women wickedness.’ (Eccles. 42:13-14)

‘Of the woman came the beginning of sin, and through her we all die.’ (Eccles. 25:22)

‘You shall not covet your neighbour’s house. You shall not covet your neighbour’s wife, or his male or female servant, or his ox or donkey ... (Exodus 20:17)

‘A woman’s vow is meaningless unless approved by her husband or father. But if her husband nullifies them … then none of the vows or pledges that came from her lips will stand. (Numbers 30:1-16)

‘… the impurity of [a woman’s] monthly period will last seven days, and anyone who touches her will be unclean till evening ... Anything she lies on during her period will be unclean, and anything she sits on will be unclean… Anyone who touches her bed will be unclean... Anyone who touches anything she sits on will be unclean; they must wash their clothes and bathe with water and they will be unclean till evening …’ (Leviticus 15: 19-31)

‘Any man who reads of an Online Opinion post that comes from a female poster will be unclean … and any keyboard he touches will be unclean and any chair he sits on will be unclean, and he must wash his clothes and bathe with water and will be unclean till evening.’ (Killarney 1:1)
Posted by Killarney, Saturday, 25 March 2017 8:16:03 PM
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Christianity is very confronting to you Killarney, quite obviously.
And if the husband must submit to the wife, then that is ok?

It's what you imply. You also imply by your ridicule of Christian ethics, a disdain of the patriarchal family, and as a consequence obviously, by implication, aspire to a world of woman domination, or a matriarchal family unit.
You can have that easily under secular ethics, through a specific Centrelink single parent pension.

As Christ is the head of the church, so the husband is the the head of the family. It's the Christian way.
If you don't consent to the principals of patriarchy, then you are simply less than a Christian, and your opinions on Christianity are irrelevant !

Here is a cherry pick:

Ephesians 5:22-23
Wives, submit yourselves to your own husbands as you do to the Lord. 23 For the husband is the head of the wife as Christ is the head of the church, his body, of which he is the Saviour.
Posted by diver dan, Saturday, 25 March 2017 9:45:58 PM
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