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Midsummer madness : Comments

By Michael Kile, published 23/2/2017

It must be the weather. As heatwaves and blackouts produce a perfect storm on Capitol Hill, the lamentation of climate alarmists becomes ever shriller.

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"At least 58 NZ glaciers advanced between 1983 and 2008." proves anthropocentric climate change is a total and complete fraud even if thousands of NZ glaciers are retreating.
Posted by 124c4u, Monday, 27 February 2017 8:17:59 AM
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"Several glaciers, notably the much-visited Fox and Franz Josef Glaciers on the West Coast, have periodically advanced, especially during the 1990s, but the scale of these advances is small when compared to 20th-century retreat. Both glaciers are currently more than 2.5 km (1.6 mi) shorter than a century ago. These large, rapidly flowing glaciers situated on steep slopes have been very reactive to small mass-balance changes. A few years of conditions favorable to glacier advance, such as more westerly winds and a resulting increase in snowfall, are rapidly echoed in a corresponding advance, followed by equally rapid retreat when those favorable conditions end. Hence glacier advance in a few locations is regarded as due to transient local weather conditions which brought more precipitation and cloudier, cooler summers since 2002." (Wikipedia entry)

Interesting, isn't it? Large glacier advances are attributed to "transient local weather conditions", even when going on since the 1990s, while glacier retreat is, allegedly, "consistent with" dangerous anthropogenic climate change.

Yet one could argue it is also consistent with cooler than expected conditions below 45SL, an 8% increase in Antarctic sea ice since 1979, cooler winters in southern Australia, snow on Clifton Beach Hobart for first time since 1986, more snow at the tip of South America and so on.

As for the "thousands of glaciers" in retreat, many of them apparently are quite small. For some reason, however, their behaviour is not attributed to "transient local weather conditions".
Posted by Alice Thermopolis, Monday, 27 February 2017 12:40:31 PM
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Alice, I believe you have never been down hill skiing or cross country skiing, you would understand then that snow has many characteristics, temperature dependent. The Inuit have many words to describe the characteristics of snow.

This might be of interest as well, a huge area of permafrost in decline. Permafrost needs constant warmth to begin to thaw, not just a hot day here or there.

http://insideclimatenews.org/news/27022017/global-warming-permafrost-study-melt-canada-siberia
Posted by ant, Thursday, 2 March 2017 8:21:07 AM
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Correct. But I have been on the Philosopher's Walk in the Upper Engadine.
Posted by Alice Thermopolis, Friday, 3 March 2017 10:01:17 AM
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Alan B, please read a bit about the "Ice Age" before you go on at me. That resulted in ice two miles thick around top of the Northern hemisphere but I am not sure of the South?
We have had many periods of hot and cold and volcano's spew far more CO2 into the atmosphere that humans ever have.
This is nonsense. We never get the real cost of solar? Just ask how much did it cost, how long will it last and how much electricity it will generate? Then the answers it cost very little, it will last forever and it generates lots of electricity. Of course it will also keep getting cheaper which is why it need lots of subsidy money.
Posted by JBowyer, Monday, 6 March 2017 4:26:59 PM
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