Hi Bagsy,

Or vice versa - neither is worth a hill of horse manure. We must let evidence 'get in the way' of both, i.e. rely on something to back up our prejudices which can be verifiable, rather than just twisting words or seizing on maybes and wishes.

There are such things as facts. Here are two:

* in South Australia, the entire 'Aborigines Department' in the nineteenth century had one employee: the Protector, whose main task was to provide rations for up to fifty depots all over the State/Province.

* the last person hanged in South Australia was executed in 1964; the last Aboriginal person hanged was executed in 1862.

Those two facts knock the daylights out of the conventional narrative. That's what facts, or evidence, tends to do.

The truth is that evidence and truth doesn't need 'truthiness' or 'factiness' to remain valid. And that nothing can make them valid.

Cheers,

Joe

@Loudmouth, Sunday, 8 January 2017 1:47:34 PM

"The truth is that evidence and truth doesn't need 'truthiness' or 'factiness' to remain valid. And that nothing can make them valid."

Agreed. Thanks Joe.

This "subject" reminds me of an a Criminal Jury case in Victoria about 30 years ago when the Foreman reported to the Judge that a fellow jury member resolutely refused to discuss the evidence, saying at every turn: "My mind is made up, don't confuse me with facts."

The Judge nearly had a stroke (he was a largish fellow with a perpetually red face as it was). His associate/clerk always reckoned it was particularly fortunate that the Judge's mic had malfunctioned.

Like evolution man made gw is mainly embraced by people who hate truth and have adopted pseudo science and pseudo morality as they trash what is wholesome.

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