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Far-right, or do you just disagree with them? : Comments

By William Hill, published 2/12/2016

Anyone who didn’t know better would think Turnbull’s conferring with his conservative parliamentary caucus is tantamount to Churchill cosying up to Oswald Mosley or George W Bush negotiating with the Klan.

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In today's world, there's no longer a left or right. Just an up or down, good policy versus bad policy! Sometimes manifesting as visionary leadership; and or, more often than not, what you can expect, when the inmates are in control of the asylum or the pigs in control of the animal farm?

With the biggest fattest pigs of all manifesting in extreme capitalism, with its ponzi schemes, short selling, and manipulated markets/colluding cartels and gold plated price gouged service that eliminates the very cornerstone of capitalism, free market competition!

Simply put, far right should instead be read as far king wrong! Which given endemic duck shoved responsibility. Needs to be replaced with pragmatism and visionary policies, which by and large, eliminates most (do nothing) "australian" politicians and or (no can do) "australian" parliaments!?

Whose vision hardly ever goes beyond selling our heritage, national estate or economic sovereignty to the lowest bidder at bargain basement fire sale prices?

Agree, disagree?

WTF does it matter? Nothing of note changes or gets done!

I mean The issue of the day denigrated to diabolically dumb (FAR RIGHT) Back Packer tax!

And when every boy and his dog knows these folk spend/leave all their money here, whether they earn some or all of it here!
Alan B.
Posted by Alan B., Friday, 2 December 2016 9:34:48 AM
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Only the far Left - the current day Labor Party, the Greens - calls conservatives far Right in Australia, and there is no difference between far Left and far Right when it comes to freedom.

Violence? Well, in Australia, the violence clearly comes from the Left, and these thugs are not prosecuted, the latest case occurring at parliament house; the thugs were told by Federal Police that no charges would be laid, and they were back again the next day, looking for another hug from the extreme Left's Senator di Nasty, no doubt.

There is no indication of a 'rise' of any far Right here. We have been controlled by the Left for decades; and with the most Left leaning leader of the Coalition ever, the rot continues. The courts are loaded with activist Lefty judges, as is the public service. There is no activity in Australia remotely reflecting conservatism, let alone far Right activities.
Posted by ttbn, Friday, 2 December 2016 9:44:26 AM
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None so blind as those who will not see!
Alan B.
Posted by Alan B., Friday, 2 December 2016 10:09:56 AM
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This reference is very much about the intrinsic propensity for the use of violence by those on the right side of the culture wars divide. The person who produced it is now the Chumps principal advisor.
http://www.torchbearermovie.com
Meanwhile, as far as I know all of the alt-right heavily armed "patriotic" militia movements in the USA are very much on the right side of the culture wars divide.
There was of course a huge surge in the numbers of these outfits when Barack Obama was elected.
And of course the Chump played to their grievances during his erection campaign.

And, as far as I know if Killary had won the election it seems as though a civil war may have occurred.
Such a scenario was openly stated by at least some of those on the alt-right side of the culture wars divide.
Posted by Daffy Duck, Friday, 2 December 2016 12:17:17 PM
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In my lifetime the most violent attacks on political rallies have been those of the ratbag left/greens on rallies by Trump & Hansen.

I find it hard to see how any reasonable lefty could be other than ashamed of the company they keep.

One other point, Hitler was a little more green than he was right. It was the National Socialist German Workers' Party or Nazi party he led.
Posted by Hasbeen, Friday, 2 December 2016 12:49:13 PM
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ttbn,
True enough, the UPF, Reclaim and so forth have never initiated violence or public disorder, in 100% of cases it's been the ALP aligned and Trades Hall sponsored goons who've attacked first; what's more the Left regularly beat up journalists, photographers and innocent bystanders who look at them the wrong way.
I've been at all the recent Victorian rallies, on both sides of the Police lines, the only time I really felt concerned for my own safety was at the Coburg riot, when I was among the so-called "Anti Racist" crowd.
All the "right wing" groups named in this article are either non political social clubs like the UPF, old school "push" type gangs like True Blue Crew or liberal party satellites in ALA, One Nation, Party For Freedom and so forth.
Guess how many recruits we Nationalists have gained from the much hyped "far right" activities of the past 18 months?
Three, so far.
So that's three people out of several thousand possible converts who participated in the Reclaim movement who have been able to accept our pro-White, ethno-nationalist message.
Kind of makes the hysterical reaction from the media, the mainstream politicians and social justice groups seem a tad out of proportion, doesn't it?
Maybe it's actually all about them and not really about us at all?
Posted by Jay Of Melbourne, Friday, 2 December 2016 12:59:01 PM
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"Maybe it's actually all about them and not really about us at all?". Brilliant analysis!
Posted by Prompete, Friday, 2 December 2016 5:38:36 PM
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if u were able to ask a unborn baby they would tell you that by far the most violent are the feminist and left. As already pointed out the left also throw tantrums when they don't get their own way. The hopelessly flawed dogmas of no smacking has produced the most self centred violent generation we have seen. Look at the getup drongos and others protesting against the President elect. The 'moderate' left in general are more violent than the right.
Posted by runner, Sunday, 4 December 2016 9:00:01 AM
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One Nation was never Far Right. It was old school traditional Labor.
Protectionist, traditionalist, assimilationist, etc.

It supported the Union movements fair trade not free trade and anti-globalisation stances. It supported CIR as did the Australian Democrats. It looked to buy back the farm.

Unfortunately Abbott came along and for purely political reasons and with help from a few friends bankrupted the party and had Hanson gaoled. Later, convictions quashed and freed.

Any extremes in politics and society are IMO a bad thing. LW Progressives are a bad thing also, it is the conservative nature of Australian society that has led to the Australia we have today. Unfortunately our polity is at a low point, I can think of no one I would vote for personally and no one that does not lie.
Posted by T800, Sunday, 4 December 2016 8:45:48 PM
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Yes. we are seeing the rise of the far right/fascism/nazism.

Humans are a varying mix of traits, rational. emotional and instinctive. When we see instinct increase is representation in traits then we see reactionary politics. The people with more rational traits are quick to recognise it so we have division based on rational versus instinctive. So instead of workers versus business, we have instinct versus evidence. Clear in US where red and blue states have swapped. So climate change for eg is an instinctive response, to deny it is not rational. Climate change and racism go hand in hand because the brain is leaning toward instinct rather than logic to process messages.

So just climate change denial alone makes it the biggest crime against humanity in history. That should be enough to say we are "too reactionary"

They are not necessarily racists or violent but always have enemies. With a financial crisis the instinct is to be productive like a worker bee, everyone has a job to do, women must reproduce, the weak are to be left behind. Translate to work for dole, baby bonus to get women breeding and anti-abortion stance and denial of disability pensions. Goes against rational thinking where capital says we should pay dole and accept some unemployment, where we have chcie in what work we do
Posted by TheMissus, Saturday, 10 December 2016 8:33:58 AM
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ROTFLMAO
Really Missus...?

You think maybe after 30 years of the rise of progressives through our institutions and politics that finally there has been a reaction from a grass roots level against Political Correctness, labeling, name-calling, intimidation, and the lack of proper representation of the largely Conservative Australian population? hmmmm?

When were we asked about Multiculti? Answer... NEVER. Hawke stated he would not allow a referendum on it because he knew it would be voted down. How many times have the Left thrown around the "R" word to silence opposition and dissent. LW progs cannot tolerate dissent.

If you keep people down long enough eventually there will be a revolt of some kind. Eventually you will cause and equally radical response at the fringes.

I love it when the look down their noses elites try on the holier than thou crap they always do, always propping themselves up by putting others down. Nice example Missus. ROFL.
Posted by T800, Sunday, 11 December 2016 8:36:02 AM
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T800 What rise of progressive? The ALP and Liberals joined at the hip. We have seen regression, not progress. No effective opposition to the flaws on Neo-Liberalism. Zero.

Racism is for regressives, it makes no sense to an evolved human. But people have a right to be racist as long as it causes no harm However it does not make it a political issue, Has nothing to do with politics like not liking Manly Rugby team or hating Darwin has nothing to do with politics. Dumping political correctness is extremist, yet those that want the right to speak freely about people based on race get cry baby tantrums when they themselves are labeled correctly as nazi. Give me a major break.
Posted by TheMissus, Monday, 12 December 2016 12:45:15 PM
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Well what an ignorant bigot you turned out to be? The political Left progs have been marching through our institutions for years... lack of space prevents me from an extensive list, but the Education system and indoctrination of our children is one prime example. Our courts another.
Political Correctness is censorship and lies... personally I do not approve of either.

Only the ignorant or totally dishonest deny what has happened.
Posted by T800, Saturday, 17 December 2016 7:08:26 AM
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