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Trump is right: climate spending is damaging to the economy and will achieve little : Comments
By Nicola Wright, published 28/11/2016Worldwide there are 350 gigawatts of coal projects currently under construction, and 932 gigawatts of pre-construction coal proposals in the pipeline.
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Posted by Alan B., Monday, 28 November 2016 9:25:11 AM
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Weaning ourselves off fossil fuels may be expensive but it cushions against possible traumatic shocks later on. Even coal will get expensive one day possibly at the same time as oil and gas.
http://oilprice.com/Energy/Energy-General/Could-Peak-Coal-Really-Be-Here.html Coal reserves in developing countries like India, Vietnam and China are poor quality compared to those in the US and Australia. If those countries have to import coal they may regret building new power stations that depend on it. If oil gets expensive (as it was as recently as 2008) there may be a rush to electric cars. If they are charged with coal fired electricity emissions will worsen. Countries like Australia that are caught unprepared will pay a heavy price. In retrospect taking some pain early on will have seemed like a good idea. Climate change concern will be rekindled with the next round of bushfires and coral bleaching. Posted by Taswegian, Monday, 28 November 2016 9:28:36 AM
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Of course Trump is right about the greatest hoax ever perpetrated on mankind.
Posted by ttbn, Monday, 28 November 2016 9:37:27 AM
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What a breath of fresh air. Thanks for some common sense Nicola.
Come on Alan B, given your lucidity on other subjects I can't believe you actually believe your above post. What's your angle. Do you think it will force the clowns to accept nuclear? It may, when Beattie almost ran Brisbane out of water, the greenies were very much less anti dam than usual. Oh what a good idea Taswegian. Because something, power in this instance, might become more expensive & life therefore harder in the not even foreseeable future let's put the price artificially higher now. Talk about hair shirt arguments. Posted by Hasbeen, Monday, 28 November 2016 11:06:01 AM
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@ttbn, there are some earthers that would say that the con that the world is a globe is the greatest hoax.
Posted by Cobber the hound, Monday, 28 November 2016 12:08:18 PM
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There's just one small problem with your thorium fantasies, Alan B.
Nothing major, mind you. Its just that a commercial thorium reactor hasn't been built. Never. And no one knows if the technology even works commercially. The very earliest a demonstration reactor will be built is 2024, if the myriad problems can be/are resolved. The earliest we'll have access to a full commercial reactor will therefore be 2030-2040. Now when you're demanding that we move the economy to thorium now, that might be a problem..perhaps! Since we are now in the realm of demanding that politicians implement solutions that are complete fantasy simply because we wish they existed, I propose we run our energy generation by using pixie dust and ground unicorn horn. And don't tell me they don''t exist...that is clearly beside the point. Posted by mhaze, Monday, 28 November 2016 12:14:13 PM
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And what is harmed save the four trillion dollar a year fossil fuel industry, we MUST opt for different fuel sources? And on SANE economic grounds alone!
That fuel is safe clean cheap thorium! Thorium is abundant and arguably the most energy dense material on the planet!
And a proven walk away safe technology only abandoned, because there was no weapons spin off!
Simply put, if our solar thermal furnace was in a waxing (Heating) phase and guaranteed to follow the current waning (cooling) phase! We would have already likely crossed the tipping point of no return?
Yes, we have wasted billions on "green solutions" and had we invested those billions further developing Thorium molten salt reactors and tasked them with burning and burning nuclear waste again and again? We could be riding a wave of exponentially expanding energy driven prosperity!
The most prominent danger we confront is perpetually prevaricating politicians shirking their duty in favor of catering to special vested interests? Were this not so, we would have already adopted clean walk away safe ultra safe thorium molten salt nuclear energy?
And given we could couple this ultra cheap energy to some really massive and very affordable desalination projects; set about drought proofing a nation! And among a host of other innumerable benefits, cut very deeply into the farmer suicide rate!
Much more important and a better use of scarce resources, than trying to prosper a tiny cabal of cronies, with retained negative gearing and (mates rates) tax breaks, for folk who not only don't need them, but have done absolutely nothing of real and lasting worth to actually earn even a fraction of them? And wasted billions!
Don't just do something, stand there!
Goats butt, butt, leaders lead!
Alan B.