Hey Jardine K. Jardine
Funny you mentioned Ludwig Von Mises...
He just popped up in a video I was watching.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=goQnm-RrU3k
“Government is essentially the negation of liberty."
http://www.goodreads.com/work/quotes/6923198-liberty-and-property

The Miner's anti-eulogy to Margaret Thatcher, Iron Lady -- "May she rust in peace".

Hurry-up Sam...:-)
Wad da ya mean?
Are you saying that Government has no influence over the job "climate"?

Hey Craig Minns,
"I think those ideas have a lot to recommend them, the problem is to create a demand for such labour. I'm not sure how to go about that, do you have any ideas?"

Firstly, if I'm going to create a separate job market with a different rate of pay, then this jobs market needs to be kept separate from the normal jobs market.
I don't want private companies exploiting the cheaper labour.
They have to provide normal jobs at award rates.
And I don't want to take jobs away from that marhet either.

So, the idea is to create altogether new jobs that would never have existed before. (Option 1)
How do I do that?
We'll start massive infrastructure projects of the like that could not previously be afforded without the use of cheaper labour.
My idea is this - HSR and straight route 6 lane concrete highway that connects all Australian capital cities with a huge port in Darwin; to make production more efficient in our country and exploit the Asian century and growth in China and India.
Then I want an inland route based on 'time'.
45mins travel from a city so people can live in the country, but still work in the city.
I want to bring the city to the country and vice-versa.
45mins on a 400 - 500kmh train should be about 250-300 west of the coast.
And its not just a travel / freight corridor.
I want to connect power, water, internet into this 'conduit'; maybe even oil and gas.
A national power grid, with multiple nuclear/thorium reactors for a 50 year plan to move to renewables.
Moving water where we need it, from one dam to another and connected to desalination plants.
This idea helps to create the infrastructure for more normal job opportunities.

[cont]
Well build sun farms and connect them to the grid, and we'll fix SA's problems by giving businesses a 50% discount on energy.
Well build big factories along this transport corridor that will build low cost removal homes that can transported and delivered easily at a lower cost helping the cost on new home buyers.
Well keep the steel plants open as we're going to need a lot of water pipe and rail track.
We'll get the miners to pay towards the cleanup of mine sites whilst using the sand and stone towards the necessary concrete.

Now I don't know how many jobs and training opportunities there are here, (also normal skilled jobs) but there's plenty to do, right across the country.

Option 2 btw, was not just create new jobs but use the cheaper labour to replace existing jobs that would save the government money, such as council jobs; cleaning up parks etc.

I want this socialist base level jobs to have a huge emphasis on new skills training; and I want to drastically lower the cost of that training.
Like a 'CES' for the jobs crossed with Major Driver Training with a community type focus.

I want to create an app, like the addictive games people play and use that mentality to entice people to learn the majority of the new skill through the app (costing little), then the cost of the skills is mainly just testing.

Do you kind-of see where I'm going?
Not sure it would or could work; as one small idea suddenly becomes huge...
It would be a whole lot of smaller projects feeding into this larger project.
That's about as far as I've gotten on this whole idea.
Anyway...

Recently, a proposal to introduce a universal living allowance, of about 25,000 Euros per year, was proposed, and then defeated, in Switzerland. The reason given, as I understand it, was that it would make Switzerland too attractive to undesirable immigrants.

Here, in Australia, we have around $200 Billion each year in the welfare budget, but, of course, with the government involved, a lot of that gets wasted in inefficiencies, useless red tape, and just plain graft.

Peter Costello famously said that we had to have a complex tax system because we live in a complex society. He had it completely backwards - our system is complex primarily because of the complexity of our tax laws. One can explain the ideas behind taxation to a reasonably intelligent 10-year old, but have made it so complex that we have four year university courses. We are producing lawyers instead of doctors and engineers.

There are many reasons why Australia should introduce a living allowance, of about $15000 to all adult Australians; you, me, and James Packer, coupled with a fixed tax rate of around 40%; and a closing of all tax- minimisation loopholes.

Here are just a few:-
It's vastly simpler - with no need of tax consultants, and a vastly reduced ATO.
With employees paid in "after tax" money, 90% need not fill tax returns.
It would provide safety of income - we could disband Centrelink
It would be easier to leave an abusive relationship.
With such a safety net, poorer people could start businesses.
With secure borders, I can't think of a downside.