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Why American engagement is necessary : Comments

By Simon Louie, published 4/10/2016

In many respects the world resembles the years preceding the Second World War: intractable conflicts, revanchist autocrats and a reluctance on the part of the Western democracies to use force.

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Yep...just like the WMD's they found in Iraq, a perfectly plausible reason to carry out "surgically precise" strikes from Tomahawk missiles to introduce freedom and liberty back into children's lives as their limbs are surgically blasted into the next world no doubt.

Australia spends in the region of $13 Million per day on US defence industry product. There is every likelihood that the next 'engagement' will involve ADF personnel as well.

I can only hope my children do not have to don a uniform in the name of some American ideal for freedom...apologies I meant: "for some overweight 68 yr old American industrialists holiday in the Maldives on top of his 22yr old secretary..."
Posted by Albie Manton in Darwin, Tuesday, 4 October 2016 4:18:25 PM
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Simon knows international law! Not that it has mattered a dam to Putin or communist China!

There is only one thing these folk are concerned about and that is earning enough income to maintain their economies and military dominance?

The latter enhanced by an alliance of convenience, advanced Russian technology and Chinese manpower?

The Chinese are claiming territory that may well hold large reserves of hydrocarbons! And the Russian economy is all but dependent on its oil and gas exports for its economic survival!

The creation of hydrocarbons from seawater, for far less than recovering or refining current oil reserves? Will effectively end Chinese plans/reason for dominating the neighborhood, on the back of purloined finite energy resources?

Cheaper energy, would enable all the affected countries to compete with China for manufactured goods market share and end European dependence on Russian energy for anything! Including defense specific energy supplies!

Effectively drying up Russian export incomes! Consequently bringing both players to the negotiating table without a shot fired or the sound of a single Sabre rattle!

Just as the Russian winter defeated Napoleon and Hitler, it will not serve Putin when the hydrocarbon dependent cash flow dries up? And in so doing, make a complete mockery of the annexation of the Crimean hydrocarbon reserves and the lives and treasure wasted in that futile endeavor!

Nor will the Chinese administration survive an enduring economic downturn that needs unfettered trade to effectively reverse!

We confront two stark choices where these totalitarian regimes are concerned!

A trade war fought on the energy dependent economic front, or given the inexorable ramping up of military ordnance/preparedness/confrontation, nuclear conflict!

Nominate your pleasure! We can do one or the other, but not both!
Alan B.
Posted by Alan B., Tuesday, 4 October 2016 4:26:08 PM
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Good on you, Simon. I don't think there is any need to respond to your critics; most contributors do not, and dissenters never get to challenge writers and columnists in the paper media when irritated by them. Contributors give us something to think about, and argue about, among ourselves.
Posted by ttbn, Tuesday, 4 October 2016 5:01:24 PM
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Simon Louie,
And so what the UN right to self determination exists only when it suits?
Or just only when you use it to pull countries towards the NWO but not when countries try to pull away from it?

Herman Van Rompuy seriously you want to quote him?
Well of course then your a globalist and an elitist and care nothing for the common people.
But is it no surprise that we care not for your crazy ideas either?
And so its illegal... because he said so?

Assad is a dictatorship, really?
So those elections he has where most of the people support him what are they?
The type of approval ratings that NONE of our so called democracies have ever seen.
Tell me after 5yrs of war would people really stand by and support a ruler like the kind you suggest he is if that was true?

He's no more a dictator than the US is a democracy.

And even if he was a dictator so what?
That doesn't necessarily mean anything in and of itself other than the west cannot install it's own puppet rulers to further its own globalist interests against the will of that nations people.
The people, well they just deal with the wars and regime changes and destruction and death.

Tell me did you support the downfall of Ghaddafi? I'd bet money you did.
How did it work out for Europe?
Ghaddafi had an agreement in place to stop migrants going to Europe, so how did that work out?
Really how did it work out?

The Baltic States - what a joke, why would Putin give a crap about the Baltic States?
Really why?

Its just rhetoric in order to justify military spending to push forward an anti-Russian anti-China agenda over global hegemony.

And no China and Russia aren't acting aggressively.
They are simply countering the US moves to place advanced military hardware in regime-changed Pro-US countries that border them.

Stop trying to fill peoples heads with lies.
People like yourself really are a big part of the problems in todays world.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Tuesday, 4 October 2016 5:52:47 PM
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To TTBN
The whole point of this site is the exchanging of views on topics of interest.There are two types of people here, and that is those who have opinions, and those who just read the opinions of others. It seems to me that you should always answer a post addressed to you unless it agrees with what you are saying or you can't refute what has been said, even if you disagree with the points made.

So if Simon does not reply, it will be left to the observers to decide which is the reason for Simon's silence.
Chris
Posted by LEFTY ONE, Tuesday, 4 October 2016 6:35:42 PM
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Simon Louie

So which do you think is more of an authority of international law, the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights, or the Guardian newspaper?

By the way, do you think that might is right?
Posted by Jardine K. Jardine, Tuesday, 4 October 2016 7:31:00 PM
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