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An open letter to my aboriginal compatriots : Comments

By Rodney Crisp, published 21/9/2016

It is clear that our two governments and the Crown are jointly and severally responsible for all this and owe them compensation.

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Summarising Rodney Crisp's incredible worldview.

White people from Britain stole Australia from black people (which is a racist premise) and the descendents of those thieves now owe the descendents of the victims whatever compensation is necessary to ensure that the victim's descendents acquire exactly the same lifestyles as the thieves descendents. Furthermore, Rodney thinks it was sinful for the British (and their descendents) to not immediately give the stone age savages who lived in Australia immediate citizenship with all the rights and privileges that this entailed.

Well, I have a few problems with that analysis.

I accept that the British stole land from the native people (much of it was completely uninhabited), but to claim that the descendents of the British are therefore responsible, I reject entirely. I note that the descendents of the British created what is one of the best countries in the world to live in. I also submit that whatever hardships the aboriginal people suffered during early settlement, the coming of the white man began the process of alleviating the hardships of a stone age existence.

This is just another "the white man owes the black man everything" article which is a racist concept I completely reject. Rodney implies that aboriginal people should be equal to whites because their university graduation statistics prove that they are just as smart as white people. I do not accept that pure blooded aboriginal people have equal intelligence with white people. And that is the real problem of aboriginal dysfunction.

Firstly, the fact that there are blond haired and blue eyed people claiming that they are "aboriginal" is a fact. You can't even speculate as to whether they are really "aboriginal" because of people like Rodney Crisp, who find freedom of speech an impediment to their own particular racist ideology.

Second, one suspects that these "aboriginals" with their free university courses are graduating in are not Science or Engineering, but more likely Artz courses guaranteed to get you a plum non job in the government, so that the government can brag about how many aboriginals and ethnics they hire.
Posted by LEGO, Wednesday, 21 September 2016 8:07:04 AM
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"Wrongs" cannot be righted 200 years later. The only aboriginals who are disadvantaged are those who voluntarily isolate themselves from mainstream Australia.
Posted by ttbn, Wednesday, 21 September 2016 8:10:52 AM
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I've written (several times) over the past 15 years to the British Government...even to HM Herself, asking for an apology regarding their kicking my ancestors off their lands in Ireland & Scotland.

Same goes for my other 'lations who were removed in the 1940's & 1950's (can I say "Stolen" ?) from their homes and sent off to be buggered and raped by the church at various locations.

We've had a PM who has said sorry on behalf of ALL Australians...now let's be adults and get over it and move on !
Posted by Albie Manton in Darwin, Wednesday, 21 September 2016 9:37:58 AM
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Well, this guy certainly has no understanding of remote Australia.
His comment about rural and remote aboriginal kids losing access to higher education is way off the mark.
All reasonable sized towns in the north have high schools and TAFE facilities. The Internet has brought distance education into every small community and all children, even the most remote have access to fully qualified teachers.
Towns like Broome and Derby, Katherine and Gove and cities like Darwin and Alice Springs are producing either year 12 graduates or university graduates in the case of the cities.
Unfortunately the numbers are down compared to southern areas but this is nothing to do with lack of facilities, it's everything to do with parents not taking kids to school.
Lost in all this discussion about the educational gap is the fact that white children in these remote areas get exactly the same services as aboriginal kids yet they go on to higher education in the most part. Children of white employees in tiny communities, children living on pastoral leases,white kids living in northern towns all fall under the same educational umbrella yet no one ever talks about disadvantage for them. Yet they succeed anyway.
And just a minor whinge about the issue of not being able to afford a birth certificate. Aboriginal people receive exactly the same amount of money as white people on welfare, yet lack of money to buy a birth certificate is never given as an excuse in their case.
We really have to stop viewing aboriginal people as a different group. These days, their successes outweigh their failures.
Posted by Big Nana, Wednesday, 21 September 2016 10:25:02 AM
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The assumption by Rodney and his merry band of bleeding hearts is that the aboriginal populations in remote areas bear no responsibility whatsoever for the situation in which they find themselves.

Yes, the schooling and health in these remote areas is substandard, but what is glossed over is that the cost to the tax payer of providing these services is about 3x the cost of providing schooling and health in the cities partially due to the remoteness of these areas and the physical danger that teachers, nurses and doctors find themselves in discourages anyone other than the most dedicated.

Secondly, even when these services are provided, the attendance levels at school are as low as 50%, and the buildings and equipment are subject to regular theft and vandalism. The recent example of Aurukun is a prime example.
Posted by Shadow Minister, Wednesday, 21 September 2016 11:20:35 AM
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I have an idea, let's tax the net incomes of urban blacks by an additional 25% and use that money exclusively to roll out outback amenities that cater exclusively for traditional indigenous communities?

Housing, schools, hospitals and tafe colleges/universities. With the teachers doctors, nurses and tutors drawn exclusively from the urban black community, even if that requires conscription?

I'm sick of listening to the whinings of a victim mentality, whose real goal is to extract compensation from the descendants of folks like mine, brought here in chains and forced by dint of circumstance to make a go of it the best way they could!

If that impacted negatively on the indigenous population?

This is by no means a new phenomenon here or abroad, given here the first of the first Australians were driven down to tasmania, by other bloodthirsty primitive cultures who followed!?

Who practiced genocide and infanticide?

Perhaps the mainland urban black population could compensate the original Tasmanians for loss of land and sovereignty! Well?

Put a dollar value on mainland australia and pass the hat around? No? I thought not!

To busy with rank nepotism and other incorrigible corrupt practices that disadvantages the folks our generous by the literal billions, aboriginal funding has been aimed at; and in too many cases pissed against a wall!

Compensation? enough already!

Just stop the endless mindless infighting and preventing environmentally safe and sound development and thereby earn the money needed to lift remote indigenous communities out of poverty!

And ensure kids go to school rather than hunting in packs doing incomprehensible harm to the community and their own prospects!

There is only one constant in the entire universe, constant change! You/we need to change with it or just get steam rolled by it when it forces adaptation!
Compensation? Bah Humbug!
Alan B.
Posted by Alan B., Wednesday, 21 September 2016 11:30:53 AM
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