The National Forum   Donate   Your Account   On Line Opinion   Forum   Blogs   Polling   About   
The Forum - On Line Opinion's article discussion area



Syndicate
RSS/XML


RSS 2.0

Main Articles General

Sign In      Register

The Forum > Article Comments > Leaders debate misses the mark on climate > Comments

Leaders debate misses the mark on climate : Comments

By Suzanne Harter, published 31/5/2016

With both major parties talking about innovation as a major part of growing our economy, how is it possible that clean technologies were not connected to that message?

  1. Pages:
  2. 1
  3. 2
  4. 3
  5. Page 4
  6. 5
  7. 6
  8. All
Yuyutsu

You need to look at the history of climate change in greater depth.

At the beginning of the 20th century the risks of emissions from coal was already being discussed in a short newspaper article ( July 1912). Margaret Thatcher had not even been born.

Around that time also; Svante Arrhenius, was calculating the impact of CO2 emissions on temperature.

http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/100645214
Posted by ant, Thursday, 2 June 2016 6:32:36 AM
Find out more about this user Recommend this comment for deletion Return to top of page Return to Forum Main Page Copy comment URL to clipboard
Stephen Hawking, if he does not process the greatest mind of our time; he is not far off.

He states:

“A more immediate danger is runaway climate change,” Hawking said. “A rise in ocean temperature would melt the ice-caps, and cause a release of large amounts of carbon dioxide from the ocean floor. Both effects could make our climate like that of Venus, with a temperature of 250 degrees.”

http://thinkprogress.org/climate/2016/05/31/3783216/stephen-hawking-donald-trump-climate-change/?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=cptop3&utm_term=1&utm_content=53

Bloomberg uses graphs to show what is happening with climate.

http://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2015-whats-warming-the-world/
Posted by ant, Thursday, 2 June 2016 6:56:34 AM
Find out more about this user Recommend this comment for deletion Return to top of page Return to Forum Main Page Copy comment URL to clipboard
Yuyutsu,

This video discussing AGW appears to pre-date Thatcher's Prime-Ministership by quite a few years:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T6YyvdYPrhY

But you just keep telling yourself it's all a hoax.
Posted by AJ Philips, Thursday, 2 June 2016 10:00:17 AM
Find out more about this user Recommend this comment for deletion Return to top of page Return to Forum Main Page Copy comment URL to clipboard
So Ant, in the 1970's The Whitlam Government had Australian scientists join in a movement that said we were heading to another Ice Age?
I can only suppose 99 per cent of scientists agreed with that too? All flying on first class expenses of course.
This is why I do not trust this nonsense.
Suggestion, read Eisenhowers famous speech about the "Military Industrial Complex". Right after he equally cautioned about research expenses leading to more and more research.
This is all fine until they want me to start paying them more than I have for this junk.
Posted by JBowyer, Thursday, 2 June 2016 10:01:10 AM
Find out more about this user Recommend this comment for deletion Return to top of page Return to Forum Main Page Copy comment URL to clipboard
JBower

In the 70s there were more science papers published about global warming than about cooling.
Scientists working for ExxonMobil (1970s) were writing about the impact of greenhouse gases creating an increase in temperature.

This is what happens in a warming atmosphere:

Texas is being hit hard by rain bombs in 2016. Here is a reference showing the devastation being caused in France and Germany recently by rain bombs, note the last photo:

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-36429381
Posted by ant, Thursday, 2 June 2016 3:29:16 PM
Find out more about this user Recommend this comment for deletion Return to top of page Return to Forum Main Page Copy comment URL to clipboard
Here we go again wasting more time & electricity on the wrong problem.
The Global Energy Group at Upsalla Uni showed that the IPCC models
use too high a figure for AVAILABLE oil & coal.

It does not matter whether CO2's global warming is true or not.
We cannot afford to burn enough of the coal & oil to do it.
Likewise we cannot afford to build a fleet of nuclear power stations.
Look at the financial difficulty the UK is having to build just ONE more.

It is doubtful that we can afford to build enough solar & wind farms
to generate a 24/7/7/overcast days amount of power in one sunny day !
Nuclear power might well be cheaper, especially thorium.
Posted by Bazz, Monday, 6 June 2016 7:13:12 PM
Find out more about this user Recommend this comment for deletion Return to top of page Return to Forum Main Page Copy comment URL to clipboard
  1. Pages:
  2. 1
  3. 2
  4. 3
  5. Page 4
  6. 5
  7. 6
  8. All

About Us :: Search :: Discuss :: Feedback :: Legals :: Privacy