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An alternative budget : Comments

By David Leyonhjelm, published 28/4/2016

Rather than promising everyone some candy, the government needs to win back its credibility by demonstrating a clear plan to return the budget to surplus and pay down its debt.

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No Dave, it's much easier to sell the farm to the Chinese. The social dislocation is similar to the fall-out from your own version of flogging the poor to prop up the rich!
Posted by diver dan, Thursday, 28 April 2016 8:49:40 AM
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Some areas of agreement David, all government benefits should be means tested!

Welfare for the rich must go, as should access to fee free public hospitals for those who can afford to pay!

Moreover, the top tax rate should never be less than the 35%, lower paid employees and staff have to pay regardless. Ditto super concessions for the rich; and family trusts which are trusts in name only, but rather are onshore tax havens!?

Furthermore, government spending could be reduced by as much as 70 billions per by just eliminated state governments and their armies of bureaucrats,and without foregoing a single service or amenity, which could be done more efficiently by councils, in conjunction with the federal government?

Direct funding and autonomy the rest of the answer which if applied intelligently with bench marking best practice comparisons, guiding the way, we could halve spending on public health and reduce the education spend by as much as 30%? Alan B.
Posted by Alan B., Thursday, 28 April 2016 9:17:07 AM
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Some very good ideas; it's a pity that we don't have politicians with the courage and intelligence to put the ideas into practice. Self-preservation and greed rules in Australia - almost half the population gets government handouts for doing nothing or very little for the economy, and the political class is so useless that it has to continue buying votes and borrowing money to do it. The end is nigh for selfish Australians.
Posted by ttbn, Thursday, 28 April 2016 10:33:15 AM
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The economy needs stimulus. The government should be takng on a lot more debt, not paying it down.

The proposed spending cuts would cause an economic decline and a loss of taxation revenue, so we wouldn't even get any closer to surplus.

Australia is financially soveriegn so we can never run out of money. Surpluses are sometimes desirable to reduce inflation, but inflation is currently negative. So again I say: WE NEED STIMULUS NOT SURPLUS.
Posted by Aidan, Thursday, 28 April 2016 10:57:07 AM
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I had high hopes for this article, but they were dashed when I looked at the proposed list of cuts.

The most important cut, one that would be cheered by a vast majority of the population, and which would demonstrate that EVERYONE was taking a haircut, would be:

A significant cut in politicians salaries and perks.
Posted by plerdsus, Thursday, 28 April 2016 12:12:57 PM
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Wow! If a single senator with few staff, & a small party backing him can produce such a detailed plan, what are the tens of thousands of bureaucrats costing us billions doing, other than dream up spending opportunities. Well done David, now lets hope you can get the ideas out to the general public.

One place I doubt you'll get much help in dissemination is our public broadcasting industry. Suggesting you reduce the budget of that useless mob will have you a marked man.

Oh & plerdsus, please drop the politics of envy. Yes I know many of our pollies are a waste of space, but really the total cost of them is a minor drop in the bucket. Pay them nothing at all, & you would only be saving a few cents per head of population. Peanuts compared to how much they can waste on fool missions like alternate electricity generation, or the arts.
Posted by Hasbeen, Thursday, 28 April 2016 12:45:39 PM
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Here we go, here we go, here we go, demonizing the welfare system for individuals. I knew this would come up, just a matter of time.

How many people on this forum have ever heard of corporate welfare? few if any I bet. Why would that be? simply because the man on the TV has not told them about it that's why?

Why has the man on the TV not talked about the cost of corporate welfare?

Why has he not told the people what the annual budget for corporate welfare is.

why is corporate welfare undiscussible?

why does the media refuse to talk about corporate welfare?

why does the media train Australians to hate welfare for individuals and the people who claim it?

Why has he not talked about other causes of insufficient tax receipts.

Might this be due to the fact that the govt gave the banks the right to print money out of thin air without reserving for the Australian people the right for their govt to print money out of thin air to fund all the goods and services govt provides to the people of Australia using the exact same method the banks use.

Why do I say the govt gave the banks the right to create money out of thin air? Well, the govt is the highest authority in the land is it not so only it could give the banks that authority. The banks cannot give themselves that right can they? ......... can they?
Posted by Referundemdrivensocienty, Thursday, 28 April 2016 8:17:11 PM
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As you think you know all about it Referundemdrivensocienty, how about you writing an alternate budget for us. We are all ears & eyes!
Posted by Hasbeen, Friday, 29 April 2016 7:21:03 PM
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Here's my questions / points.
I'm don't posses the economic wisdom some of you have so maybe you can shed some light on it for me.
I refer to some of the questions Referundemdrivensocienty brings up and also Aiden's responses.

I ask:
'Why is it a good idea to keep burdening ourselves with more and more debt?'
'Are we not an economy driven by handouts and powered by debt?'

I know Aiden's textbook economic wisdom says we need to borrow and increase money supply to create stimulus and grow the economy, but to me somethings seriously wrong when you have an export deficit and your printing money to both pay interest and see it sent overseas.
And that's before you have to really face the facts that the economy itself is completely false and powered by the handouts, is it not?
Yes, we can borrow, but the moneys not staying here, and we're slowly sinking into oblivion, right?

'Why is it a good idea to keep burdening ourselves with more and more debt?'
Posted by Armchair Critic, Monday, 2 May 2016 9:44:26 AM
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