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Cash gets 60 Minutes out of jail, for now : Comments

By Malcolm King, published 22/4/2016

Judge Rami Abdullah said the 60 Minutes crew and Ms Faulkner are still facing public prosecution charges of kidnapping and being members of a criminal gang and may be required to return to Lebanon if the state decides to go ahead with the prosecution.

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Roscop

That Husband is not caring for his children, his mother is doing what women do over there, she is waiting on him hand and foot, and looking after those two little ones as well.
Looks to me like he only spends time with the kids when it suits him, like it's all fun and
Laughs for an hour then he hands them back to his mother when he tires of it.

That's the way it is over there. Probably the same when he was married, didn't pull his weight and his wife got tired of doing it all.

Funny you say you were a toddler, but you don't mention having ever done any major looking after,loving and caring for a toddler. Only then would you have any insight into the emotions and security needs a small child like that needs.
I think what he's doing, tearing those babies away from their mother is cruel and does not have the best interests of those little ones at heart. It's all about him, selfish.

Is he an Australian citizen or isn't he. Typical, swear allegiance, then turncoat.
Why the hell does he come to Australia marry an Australian women, now suddenly he's Lebanese again.
He caused this whole sorry affair. First by masquerading as an Australian,but now proves he's not an Australian at all. The Lebanese judge should have ruled on a proper shared access of the children between the husband and wife. Justice denied.

So An unjust and unfair Lebanese Justice system is also responsible for the whole desperate affair as well.
I doubt very much that, that grandmother was hurt as much as she claimed, playing it up to the cameras as though she'd been schooled in what to do.
I think they knew about that impending attempt to get the children out.
There was something fake or setup in my mind in the way that grandmother and other woman came walking down the street.
Posted by CHERFUL, Wednesday, 27 April 2016 7:59:05 PM
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@Cherful, your prejudice against fathers is on full display in your fanciful story.

As the children are growing up they'll probably see their granny as the maternal figure in the family and the biological mother as a more distant relative who they get to see once in a while and sometimes online I suppose. The granny should make a wonderful maternal figure as she has already raised one strong son who knows how to stick up for his basic human rights. Don't forget he is very protective of his children. That's why he took them from the mother because they were jumping into bed with her and her male companion according to what he said to Kyle and Jackie O.
Posted by Roscop, Wednesday, 27 April 2016 9:00:36 PM
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Onthebeach, I don't know about your friends but I would fall over laughing or feel insulted, if my friends presumed that I went around "wishing harm upon people", for they are educated enough to know that there are no fairies out there fulfilling wishes. It is however very much part of Arab culture.

As it happens, earlier in the thread Roscop mentioned that he had lived close to Mecca and seemed to have no issue with the gross inequality of sharia law, as the women were "a good deal less arrogant". Subservience to men is hardly fair on women, yet that does not seem to bother him. Once again, that is part of Arab culture and does not apply here.

I gather that the mother left Lebanon in 2013 for good reasons. In 2012 the Sunnis and Shia were shooting each other in the streets and the place was yet again a warzone. The father is now denying those children a life in Australia. If that was my father, I would never ever fogive him. Yes the mother has a new partner and it sounds like they were living a happy and normal family life together, doing nothing which is not normal in Australia. Once again Arab culture seems to be the issue, as Roscop still can't see how laughable it is
Posted by Yabby, Thursday, 28 April 2016 12:04:07 AM
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@Yabby, you may think it is normal in Australia for a man's children to be hopping into bed and rollicking around with another man even if the mother is with them. But what if the mother has to be absent from the home say for hospitalisation for her next baby or for work requirements etc? Yes a laughable situation for you but not for most separated father's in Ali's situation, I suggest.

BTW, according to the press this week, 60 Minges was doing a story in 2014 on a woman who abducted a man's children from Turkey. Apparently that case has been going through the Family Court for the past year or so.
Posted by Roscop, Thursday, 28 April 2016 8:17:50 AM
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Roscop, your hypothetical above is not what was claimed to be happening by the father.

http://www.prb.org/Publications/Reports/2013/child-marriage-mena.aspx

It seems to me, what we have here once again however, is a clash of cultures. In the Arab world, children are sexualised at a much younger age, due to religious laws, so their human rights are not considered.
Women are commonly covered up and hidden away in their houses, some can't even walk on the streets by themselves and not even think of talking to a male who is not a relative. Nobody trusts anybody.

Our society is far more based on trust, communication and education. The best protection that child could have, is education of what is right and wrong and open communication about their rights. Our own problems with child molestation were far greater, when children were forced to unquestionably accept the authority of their fathers and other male figures in their lives. That is how things got covered up. Education is the best protection for children. I remind you that some of them need protection from their fathers too.
Posted by Yabby, Thursday, 28 April 2016 10:31:30 AM
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@Yabby, " your hypothetical above is not what was claimed to be happening by the father." Not hypothetical and you are dead flat wrong again.

Listen to the father speaking to Kyle and Jackie O:

https://soundcloud.com/kiis1065/21416-father-of-60-mins-kidnap-saga-ali-elamine

When you are done, watch to the end this video which shows why some children need protection from their mothers:

https://youtu.be/qdqJhkHHRTc
Posted by Roscop, Thursday, 28 April 2016 4:45:47 PM
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