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Thoughts on the commemoration of Anzac Day : Comments

By Peter Wigg, published 20/4/2016

I wish to question the current relevance of the commemoration, not wanting it to be an empty spectacle, or a celebration of war itself.

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Speaking of strawman arguments where are the real life examples of so called "bogans" somehow dishonouring or interrupting the solemnity of ANZAC day?
We've had Feminists and Anarchists try to interrupt ANZAC services on occasion but the last examples of such behaviour, Women Against Rape In Wartime for one were easily 30 years ago.
Australia's two explicitly nationalist political groups have a policy of immediate stand down and withdrawal of all Australian troops from foreign countries and a shift to neutrality and an independent foreign policy which serves only our interests. In fact nationalists are the only people actively pursuing anti war and anti globalist line, all other parties in the fake left-right status quo support the U.S and E.U. program of endless war, imperialism and imposition of universal neo-liberal values upon all peoples.
Posted by Jay Of Melbourne, Wednesday, 20 April 2016 7:16:35 PM
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Chek,
Nope, the poorest Blacks and Mexicans in the U.S are the least likely to be able to pass the fitness, intelligence and character tests required of a modern infantryman and therein lies the reason Blacks were excluded from most frontline units until the 1960's.
Initiatives like "Project 100,000" in 1966 were a disaster, only 40% of Black inductees were fit for duty and because they were treated more leniently in training the graduates suffered horrific casualties in battle.
It's the same today, find some U.S veterans on Facebook who are willing to open up about it and you find out that though Blacks and Mexicans may be deployed in forward units it's mostly in rear echelon jobs, cooks, drivers, mechanics, clerks etc. They are under represented in combat platoons and almost absent the top tier special forces units and specialist military trades.
Posted by Jay Of Melbourne, Wednesday, 20 April 2016 7:30:08 PM
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Gee Jay Of Melbourne, it must have been a terrible shock to you to see an African American become President of the United States?

When everyone is commemorating the fallen on Anzac Day, no one will care what colour, race or creed they were...except you and your Nationalist white comrades of course.
Posted by Suseonline, Thursday, 21 April 2016 1:50:19 AM
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Thanks Jay.

My meagre knowledge was from a doco I saw on ABC TV a while ago, showing how these poor blighters found it so attractive to join up from high school.

The point I was trying to make is that not all who join the fighting forces do so out of patriotic calling. Therefore to mythologise that aspect of soldiering is to me less than ethical
Posted by Chek, Thursday, 21 April 2016 10:01:17 AM
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Chek,
Your point while true for the US, doesn't apply for the ANZACS.
I'm not sure they were ever conscripted in WWI, they volunteered to fight for the Commonwealth and for us.
Lets not forget that.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Thursday, 21 April 2016 11:17:47 AM
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Anzac Day, Christmas, Easter - they are all targets for pathetic creatures to pontificate on every year, a few days before the events. Year in, year out, we are sujected to their boring ear-bashing. Who gives a toss about the opinions of bores. It's not their place to instruct others on what are purely personal attitudes. People will always think and do what suits them. The only thing they achieve is an excuse for online nutters like Cobber and Rhrosty to vent their spleens against anthing decent and Australian.
Posted by ttbn, Thursday, 21 April 2016 12:00:39 PM
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