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By Everald Compton, published 14/3/2016There is a rapidly growing legion of angry voters out there and they are spread right across Australia. They are utterly disenchanted with politics and the political establishment and want to 'shaft them mightily' in Donald Trump style.
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Posted by Rhrosty, Monday, 14 March 2016 8:54:26 AM
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Agriculture should trump mining. Always.
As should fair discourse in politics Posted by McReal, Monday, 14 March 2016 9:29:19 AM
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The last thing we need is a self centred fool like Windsor pushing Barnaby out.
Barnaby will be critical to keeping an LNP government from the more stupid ideas of Turnbull, should we be silly enough to re-elect them with Turnbull their leader. Windsor on the other hand will be nothing but a self aggrandising bit player, regardless of who wins. He had his chance to do something useful by stopping his backing of Gillard, before she set in place her time bombs of Gonski & the NDIS. Hell all he had to do was cross the floor on those 2 bills, & he could have saved us, or at least dramatically reduced, our huge & growing deficit problem. The fact that he did neither proves either, he is too dumb to understand what was happening, or simply did not care about the millions of Ozzies effected now & into the future. That more than a handful could even consider voting for him shows how little thought goes into so many voting decisions. Posted by Hasbeen, Monday, 14 March 2016 9:31:25 AM
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Tony Windsor, that perverse, grumpy old curmudgeon to beat the straight talking, sunny, genuine Barnaby Joyce? Just how much of this Windsor Knot is a desire to "serve the country" ? Sure it's not really about pay-backs for perceived slights? As for Tony Abbott...it's because he was so bad is it that the Party faithful roared their approval recently... and clapped listlessly, albeit politely, when Malcolm Turnbull turned up at the recent Liberal Party function in Canberra's Parliament House?
Posted by Denny, Monday, 14 March 2016 10:04:24 AM
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Barnaby should go back to Queensland where his head in the sand view of climate change and gay marriage are more acceptable. He might represent the bush very well, but the rest of his views are out of step with the electorate.
David Posted by VK3AUU, Monday, 14 March 2016 10:07:09 AM
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The oracle has spoken! He is a 'friend' of Joyce, too. I wonder what Joyce thinks of him. All I can say about this bloke is I'm glad he is not a friend of mine if he is barracking for for the snake Windsor. That man is no Australian Trump. He is a silly old dinosaur who was part of the problem with Australian politics in the first place, with a double dose of nastiness coming from his co-support with the idiot, Oakeshotte, helping out the dud, Gillard to continue her socialist rampage. However, I do hope that the 'oracle' is right about that screeching girl, Pyne, being deposed.
Posted by ttbn, Monday, 14 March 2016 10:27:17 AM
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What is wrong with Gonski & the NDIS, Hasbeen?
Posted by McReal, Monday, 14 March 2016 10:59:05 AM
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Almost exactly wrong, McReal, for the fundamental reason that mining can only take place where sufficient concentration of ore is present. This amounts to less than a hundredth of the area where agriculture can be undertaken. That's before even considering the corollary that that value per square metre is much greater with mining, or the possibility of rehabilitation for agriculture post-mining.
Having said that, the large area of open cut coal mining in the Hunter Valley might be the exception that proves the rule. Posted by Mark Duffett, Monday, 14 March 2016 11:12:44 AM
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"mining can only take place where sufficient concentration of ore is present" -- really??!
"This amounts to less than a hundredth of the area where agriculture can be undertaken" -- That's beside the point: the key issue is *the areas where agriculture can be undertaken* AND the water tables surrounding them AND the water-courses downstream from them. "the possibility of rehabilitation for agriculture post-mining" = only a possibility: the mining-industry either has a poor record in this area, or a poorly-documented record. "the large area of open cut coal mining in the Hunter Valley might be the exception that proves the rule" - what rule? Posted by McReal, Monday, 14 March 2016 11:47:29 AM
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It is the media setting the scene for turncoat/traitor Tony Windsor.
Would people of the New England region be so stupid? At least Barnaby Joyce is fairdinkum and can be reached, and he encourages progress. Posted by JF Aus, Monday, 14 March 2016 12:19:28 PM
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"What is wrong with Gonski & the NDIS, Hasbeen?" McReal.
Only a fan of even bigger government, who draws their income from the tax payers purse in some way, could ever ask such a question. Posted by Hasbeen, Monday, 14 March 2016 12:31:00 PM
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What rule? The rule that mining is, generally, intrinsically a far greater generator of wealth per square metre than mining, for the fundamental reason of scarcity - yes, really. How much of Australia's land area do you think is occupied by mining, and how much by agriculture? This, far from being beside the point, is precisely the point.
Posted by Mark Duffett, Monday, 14 March 2016 12:44:45 PM
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Barnaby Joyce should be aware there is likely another cause of climate change, and he is likely working behind the scenes to know reality of influences on weather that agriculture and farmers should know about.
The ABC could investigate question Barnaby Joyce and report reality or not of warmth in ocean algae impacting climate, or not. Algae is categorically linked to warmth in areas of ocean. e.g. http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/Features/ElNinoColor/el_nino_color_3.php At least some politicians are working behind the scenes and Barnaby Joyce is one of them. There is need for a big wake up especially at editorial level at the publicly funded ABC news department. The ABC is suppressing information about the devastated state of Australian fish stocks and ocean ecosystems, and is not investigating and reporting possible export generating solutions. Meanwhile 70 percent of fish product used annually in Australia is now imported. Especially catfish for the ignorant. Good fish and chips used to be a low cost meal. And this is all linked to export of quality Australian beef cuts that most Australians can no longer afford. It's likely Windsor also has just sausages on the barbecue, no quality steak like previously. Windsor's Gillard-Rudd mob did nothing about solutions at all. Posted by JF Aus, Monday, 14 March 2016 1:16:01 PM
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Mark Duffett, while the mining activity is taking place, it usually generates a much higher income per square metre than agriculture (though with coal prices so low, it's no longer safe to assume it always will). But mining only generates revenue for a short time, whereas agriculture can go on forever. So where mining is likely to have adverse impacts on agriculture long after it's finished, we should be extremely cautious.
Posted by Aidan, Monday, 14 March 2016 10:23:26 PM
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I quite like Barnaby, particularly when he was that courage of conviction Queensland rebel Senator, who holds the record for the number of times any member crossed the floor.
But my respect is just not matched for the Nats and their former leader, who it seems, rolled over and begged for a tummy rub on a whole raft of issues important as life blood to the Bush! I've heard all that garbage about how you get more results inside the tent? Yeah? For whom, the affected (save our jobs) members or the patently sacrificed Bush!? Well it seems Oakeshott and Windsor squeezed far more concessions out of the other side of politics, inside a single term, from outside the tent! And had that purely pragmatic example been emulated by the party allegedly standing up for the bush their could have been some very different outcomes on things important to the bush, from firearms/feral control to wool, sugar, milk and the family farm and the decimated towns that depended on them! And that's why independents need to be given their chance rather than the feckless Nats, if only to get Gonski, the NBN and the NDIS for the Bush! We've really had far too many criminally underreported farmer suicides, and need genuinely committed folks that truly represent them and their issues, rather than just their seats/pay packets and entitlements; or worse, a mindless ideology/Fanaticism? Rhrosty. Posted by Rhrosty, Tuesday, 15 March 2016 8:56:41 AM
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"Barnaby should go back to Queensland where his head in the sand view of climate change and gay marriage are more acceptable." Is that why the International Gay Lobby, Fairfax and the ABC are so afraid of a plebiscite on SSM VK3AUU? "We the people" might have a say ?
Posted by Denny, Tuesday, 15 March 2016 11:25:03 AM
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Joyce is just a mouthpiece for his sponsors (such as Gina Hancock and the Coal Seam Gas industry) and an embarrassment generally.
When he's not writing off taxpayer 4WDs in flooded creeks or ranting about $100 lamb roasts or confusing millions and billions (not good even for a former suburban accountant) he's escorting prominent climate deniers around the place at the same time he claims to believe in AGW. He only stood for Windsor's seat after Windsor announced his retirement and must now be having a few regrets. It's one thing to claim concern about mining in agricultural land but another not to do anything about it when it mattered. Posted by rache, Wednesday, 16 March 2016 8:07:35 AM
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Rache,
And Windsor is a mouthpiece for Clive Palmer and the coal industry. Posted by Shadow Minister, Friday, 18 March 2016 4:58:26 PM
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I always read Everald’s nonsense. He has the knack of always being completely wrong, so there is some comfort in knowing that Windsor will not succeed in his comeback attempt.
There is no Windsor knot. It is not possible to put a knot in a turd. Windsor inflicted on us the second worst prime minister we have ever had, and it would be surprising if the electorate could forgive him for the Gillard years, made possible only by his corrupt conduct. Here’s to Windsor’s failure, and to the success of Barnaby Joyce Posted by Leo Lane, Friday, 18 March 2016 10:22:28 PM
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Well said, Leo.
Posted by JF Aus, Friday, 18 March 2016 10:28:29 PM
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Why?
Well look to the way education has been funded in New England, with five of its schools in the top bracket, as the most disadvantaged!
And as usual, just not an actual issue with those crippled cretins, not assisted by the self imposed ideological straitjackets, who chose to support, out of obtuse habit, a basically useless National party, only able to actually survive, thanks to channeled liberal (master/obedience trainer) preferences; even though the policies they've supported over the decades, have literally decimated the bush!
And they have been party to ripping up what might have transfused life life back into it, by basically dismantling a vastly superior fibre to the home or office NBN!
Rhrosty.