>In fact, doctors demanding lockouts because they don't like treating the victims of violence is equivalent to teachers demanding parents keep dumb kids at home. They should do their jobs, or find a job that they'd rather do.

I agree. I had a firefighter friend and I asked bkm about handling all the carnage of road accidents etc and how did they all cope. He said he coped just fine and he had no empathy for anyone who couldn't cope, none of them were forced to do it. It made me think...and after awhile I came around to his way of looking at it, which seems to be the same as the authors.

Hi there ONTHEBEACH...

Your last thread was spot on my friend, I couldn't agree with you more! As I've said ad nauseam, until police are permitted to act as police, and come down hard on these menacing predator's who by happenstance, emerge from their drains and sewers at night:- And all echelon of the judiciary (finally) become fully supportive of police, by the regular imposition of much tougher custodial penalties.

Regrettably until that support occurs, a complete collaboration between police and judiciary, these sewer dwellers shall continue to go on with these anti-social rampages whenever the mood takes them.

Like most Aussies OTB I've travelled abroad a fair bit, and I've been to many of the world's more famous night spots. Nonetheless, it would seem that only here in Oz, do we have to endure all this unnecessary public inebriation and street brutality, the immensity and prevalence of which, we witness in parts of Sydney, at regular intervals at night? It's a very sad state of affairs really?

Staying up all night drinking isn't an offence under the law, just an offence to your liver.

Prosecute the d!ckheads who can't handle their piss and carry on to the full extent of the law: a man who can't drink his own weight in beer without becoming violent is no man at all.

To be honest, I don't really think it is the beer that is the problem. I think it is the steroids. If the constabulary spent half as much time, effort and resources on policing the illegal consumption of steroids as they did on policing the illegal consumption of recreational drugs, they might find a lot less violence on the streets. But it's so much easier to catch stoners...