Syria? Well what can America do?

The rebels are a divided rabble, the Turks are shelling the kurds, the only group to effectively push ISIS back.

Getting more involved in Syria, may mean a defacto war between Russia and the US? And only nut jobs would contemplate that outcome at this point in time!

The Russian involvement may force a divided rabble to unite under a single leadership core. And then just repeat what the mujahideen did in Afghanistan.

In the interim focus on just keeping energy prices a rock bottom lows, this will strengthen the American economy and quite massively weaken Russia's And limit Iran's ability to interfere.

If the rebels can be supplied with SAMS, and a few Russian warplanes are shot down, with shoulder fired stingers or tanks blown up with U.E.D's

The cost to Russia in men and materials could go up, with no end in sight? A costly quagmire?

America could increase its involvement covertly, with say stealth bombers flying over besieged cities with food and munitions drops?

And tell Turkey to stop shelling/bombing anti ISIS successful kurdish fighters. Or face possible expulsion from NATO!

They had a working peace deal with the Kurds and simply and deliberately violated it for blatant domestic political purposes!?

Who needs enemies, when you've friends like the Turks!? Perhaps the present administration secretly yearn for a caliphate?
Rhrosty.

WTF right have the Yanks to kill their way into country after country to impose regime change? WTF right have they to sabotage peace negotiations to tell the Syrians who they are allowed to have running their country? The Rape of Vietnam started with Yank intervention in the Geneva peace talks between the Vietnamese and the French, insisting that there could be no nationwide elections because the Commies would win. Megadeaths later the Commies won and the Yanks fled.

Endless slaughter, with no end in sight, flows from the Americans trying to extend their arrogant Monroe Doctrine throughout the world.

We are fools to back their play.

I have read some propaganda in my time but this writer is delusional.

"Although plenty of places have taken a turn for the worse during President Obama’s tenure as leader of the free world, nowhere has the deterioration been as stark – or as damaging to American"

First, places have taken a turn for the worse, the ultimate understatement - Libya, destroyed by Mad Hatter Clinton, opening the gateway for those Muslims looking for a new home in Europe, Iran, damage to its economy due to crippling sanctions for non-existent nuclear weapons. Syria, destabilised, predominantly by the US from the outset, all in the name of regime change to secure energy resources and pipeline access for both the US and EU. And let's not forget Iraq, Afghanistan, Yemen, Somalia etc, all failing states due to western hegemonic interference.

What business has the US, through proxy nations (Saudi Arabia, UK, Germany, Australia, etc) in destroying the legitimate governments and countries in the first point, I would say none!

As to the "Obama being the leader of the free world" what a joke. The US is the provocateur in all of this mess, plus the GW Bush legacy of destruction around the globe.

The US is approaching 'failed state' status, politically, economically and socially, if you look closer, the US has become a totalitarian state, one which increasingly becomes desperate as China and Russia, and other nations, circumvent US monetary games and seek to change the status quo.

The Republicans should, when they win the White House, get out of the ME, but they won't of course, it's in their blood and they know no other way. Failure stacked on failure no matter the cost in blood and money is what lies ahead.

History will be replete with the real narrative, and it won't be pleasant reading.

Julian Imp.,

Hyperbole is so much fun, isn't it ? "Endless slaughter .... "

Yes, probably, forty and fifty years ago. But now ? Where ? Syria ? I wasn't aware that the Yanks had thousands of troops there - Christ, I wish there were, and so, I'm sure, do the Kurds. Libya ? Are there any at all there ?

As Islamist fascism gains footholds across north Africa and further south, and further across the Middle East and up into central Asia, it may turn out that the Yanks, the EU, Russia and China will have to get very equally involved in two battles:

* military: in crushing Islamist fascism (sorry, your Highness if they're your bum buddies); and

* ideologically: in teasing out Islam as a backward, reactionary, tribal and quite uncivilized body of beliefs held by intelligent and otherwise civilized people, numbering 1.4 billion,

in a very long-term struggle between open-society and closed-society beliefs, between equal-gender versus differential-gender beliefs, between the rule of law versus the rule of the book (as interpreted by imams and mullahs and emirs and kadis and Uncle Tom Cobbley) - and in contention over many other issues.

I don't expect, in my life time, to see the resolution of these issues. It may be the most crucial ideological struggle in the past two thousands of years, a sort of contention between the best of the Greeks and the worst of the ancient tribals - a battle that has been slowly brewing for those thousands of years. And we, in the Weast, basing ourselves on the enlightenment, may not win it, thanks to the gutless 'left'.

Joe

Looks like Gary Gambill needs to check news other than that peddled by US neoconservatives who don't care what damage they cause to others while trying to maintain or increase their own wealth and power. Basically what the strongly Zionist influenced Western Mainstream News published. The aim of the West - particularly the USA in Syria has been "regime change" The real aim of deposing Bashar Al-Assad, who is popular with his own people and heads a secular government tolerating freedom of religion is that he acts basically in the interests of his own people. To allow western banksters, corporations and military industrial complex a free hand and secure the safety of Israel, they would like smsll weak states led by puppets and stooges subservient to their own interests.

As is would be difficult to make the US public accept major long commitments of their troops as in Iraq and Afghanistan, the technique has been to employ proxy fighters. Including paid mercenaries working for what is still known largely by its former official name of Blackwater. However, numerous stories which periodically leak out have proven that Islamic State and may of the other Syrian resistance groups have been basically created and supported by the US. For ongoing details obviously containing a lot more truth than that peddled by Western MSM, Mr Gambill should keep an eye on alternate news sources. Re the current Syria issue try www.globalresearch.ca , www.rt.com , www.sputniknews.com, www.presstv.ir , www.emglish.farsnews.com. www.saba.sy/en .

Hi Mox,

I'm not clear about what you mean by "strongly Zionist influenced Western Mainstream News". Do you mean Murdoch ? He's not Jewish, you know, he's probably Presbyterian. But if you want to have a go at Jews, give it your best shot.

I disagree with you that the US is all-powerful, that it can create all manner of puppet groups at will, such as you suggest. But Islamist crackpot theory throws up schisms at a rapid rate, and always has, since the seventh century. Islamists have devised their own ideologies over tiny points of difference for 1400 years now, and frankly come up with nothing but dead-headed and anti-woman rubbish. But again, if you want to ignore all those centuries of futile and brutal idiocy, go for it.

Joe

Seems that the likes of Loudmouth should keep an eye on news sources other than that emanating from Western mainstream media. Would then become aware of news and views that the latter usually does not publish. Note that much of what is critical of western policies is from authors in western countries. Re the Zionist influence , this is largely from Jewish sympathisers ( including Rupert, whose mother was Jewish) but there are also Jews who oppose it. eg Orthodox Jews the Neturei Karta object to the existence of a Jewish state ie Israel.

Hi Mox,

Murdoch is Jewish ? Wikipedia says,

"Murdoch was born Keith Rupert Murdoch on 11 March 1931 in Melbourne, Australia to Sir Keith Murdoch (1885–1952) and Elisabeth Joy Greene (later Dame Elisabeth Murdoch) (1909–2012), daughter of Rupert Greene. He is of English, Irish, and Scottish ancestry."

And even if he was Jewish, are you suggesting that Jews should be barred from working in the media ?

Oh and by the way, in case you were thinking of it, J. D. Rockefeller wasn't Jewish either, but Methodist/Episcopalian, something like that.

Sometimes puppet-masters are actually not Jewish.

Just trying, probably in vain, to help you avoid anti-Semitism.

Joe
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The Russian intervention in Syria quickly widely exposed the real agenda of the US led coalition in Syria. Pretending to fight terrorist organisations they largely created and have been supporting to further their objective of replacing the government in Syria with their own puppets. Saw one good analogy of US behaviour from an observer in the Middle East. It is like they covertly set your house on fire. then race around pretending to help put out the fire while actually looting and setting up opportunities for further theft. eg they have bombed buildings where terrorists were, after secretly having given them warnings to move out. Bombing has also been to destroy civilian infrastructure to help facilitate "regime change" eg A while ago a US bombing raid on IS 'capital" Raqqa, was exposed as damaging a museum, sports stadium and equestrian centre. NOT terrorist facilities. Meanwhile, the Russians have been targeting genuine terrorists with deadly accuracy, allowing the Syrian Arab Army to make rapid advances against them.

For heaven's sake, spare a thought for the English language. Jews are people who share a common ancestry traced matrilineally. Zionism is an ideology centred on the racist myth of God having chosen the Jews as a master race (Ũbermenschen). Judaism is a religion. It is wrong to conflate them. To conflate Jew with Zionist (a stratagem especially employed often by Zionists to hide their racism by calling their opponents "antiSemitic") is also racist.

Rupert Murdoch is a blot on the face of the earth who among other offences makes cynical use of Zionism, probably without actually believing in it. His ethnicity is neither here nor there.

Islam is a religion or cult calling for enslavement of all humanity including those who espouse it. Moslems are people (believers) who accept the religion and its fake "prophet" and the instructions in its "holy books" (i.e. those which survive abrogation) as speaking for God. Note the distinction: Islam is a religion (or a cult), Moslems are individual people. "Extremists" or "fundamentalists" or "radicals" or ISIS are Moslems who put the instructions into practice. Sharia is composed of the details of enslavement. A Zionist on Q&A last night threw out a challenge: where are the mass demonstrations of Moslems protesting against terrorism as they protest against the endless perceived slights to their religion? The appeaser on the panel could only waffle.

Hi Jules Imp.,

I couldn't put it better myself - it deserves repeating:

"Islam is a religion or cult calling for enslavement of all humanity including those who espouse it. Moslems are people (believers) who accept the religion and its fake "prophet" and the instructions in its "holy books" (i.e. those which survive abrogation) as speaking for God.

"Note the distinction: Islam is a religion (or a cult), Moslems are individual people. "Extremists" or "fundamentalists" or "radicals" or ISIS are Moslems who put the instructions into practice. Sharia is composed of the details of enslavement.

"A Zionist on Q&A last night threw out a challenge: where are the mass demonstrations of Moslems protesting against terrorism as they protest against the endless perceived slights to their religion? The appeaser on the panel could only waffle."

I thought I might be one of the few who noticed :) She started off okay, then inevitably it seems, dropped into apologetics. Beautiful eyes, though, and I'm a sucker for a pretty face, so she nearly had me fooled.

Yes, 'where are the mass demonstrations of Moslems protesting against terrorism ?" If Islam has all sorts of internal problems trying to overcome Islamo-fascism and terrorism, and if it's their business primarily to resolve those issues, then where are the slightest signs of that struggle ? Are we to believe that any organised Muslims at all oppose terrorism ?

Cheers,

Joe