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"About the Author
Imogen Jubb is a communications advisor for the Climate Reality Project at the Australian Conservation Foundation. She was previously employed as the communications advisor to the Australian Climate Chance Science Program – a joint initiative of the Australian government and CSIRO". That would be spin doctor in normal conversation, wouldn't it?

Incidentally that was a pretty bad analogy Imogen, really fast drivers, racing formula 1, don't have speedos love, they use judgement. Something the CSIRO appears to be finally developing, even if only under pressure.

Ever thought of hiring a scientific adviser, or perhaps a real life adviser? A good one of the latter could help you a lot.

Imogen. I think that Peter Lang (above) has provided a figure identifying the $ being spent on the "settled science".

Whilst it is valuable that Australia (Southern Hemisphere) supplies 'raw data' to such organisations as the IPCC, UEA climate research division, NASSA etc, who have invested billions in super computers etc to interpret the data and provide 'projections' etc, it is no loss or risk to Australia to redirect science research $ to areas most immediately relevant to Australia.

Much research could be devoted to transforming the 'north' of Australia into the 'food bowel of Asia' as has been promoted. Why should Australian taxpayers fund design and research into nuclear reactors, submarines, horizontal drilling etc when these technologies are available 'off the shelf' from other countries?

Those scientists with expertise in climate control/adaptation research can relocate to overseas organisations that are well funded to undertake the work.

Blind Freddy can see that Australia is in a position where a reduction in government spending is a current priority. I think this is an excellent example of how this can be progressed.

Hearty congratulations to Larry Marshall for his forward thinking and sensible decision in re-focussing CSIRO research efforts/directions.

How can they say that religion is dieing when clearly the church of denial is still going strong?

It is a relief that Malcolm Turnbull, who has not shown much sign of supporting the truth about climate change, has allowed the fraud-supporting CSIRO to be dealt with in an appropriate manner, in having its funding cut.
Imogen draws the ridiculous analogy:” Cutting climate science is like throwing out your speedometer while driving at full speed down a road you have never been down before. We know the direction, but we lose our ability to control how fast we are going.”
Cutting funding to the CSIRO is like switching off an instrument that is demonstrably faulty, so that you will no longer be misled by it.
Robert le Page is back with his scurrilous and baseless use of the word "denial" in relation to truth supporters. Where is the science which is being denied, Robert?
There is no science to show any measurable effect of human emissions on climate, Robert, no doubt because the human effect is trivial, and not measurable.

Yes Ant, and all happening while our solar furnace has been in a waning (cooling) phase since the mid seventies.(NASA)

I'm all for more innovation and can only hope some of it can be directed at ameliorating against man made climate change!

Man made, given it's a sure bet none of what we've seen in over a quarter of a century, as so ably identified by you, was the product of the sun!

And an elliptical orbit creates warmer times and cooler ones, natural variations, rather ever upward trend lines!

As for cooler winters, more intense blizzards, higher average wind speeds, what have you?

Exactly what you'd expect from additional heat related global warming/convection!

But don't hold your breath waiting for the money men, or their American mouthpiece to do more than bleed a captive energy market white!?

When what we need to incentivate behavior change is not only alternative carbon free energy, but cheaper energy as well. And for mine, that's exclusively in publicly owned and supplied paradigms.

And exactly what this country needs to assist the real entrepreneurs of the future to build energy dependant high tech manufacture!

Even if it starts in a suburban garages with 3D printers making subsitute body parts or replacement car parts, HHO generators for autos etc?

Now that we are no longer making cars, rejuvenating those we have now will become a growth industry, as will quite massively increasing fuel economies!

As will devices that further add to vehicle economy like water injectors that replace energy sapping radiators.


Obviously the most important thing we can do for the economy, in a land confounded by the tyranny of distance and the cost to us of transporting our trade goods anywhere! Is to reduce that cost!
Rhrosty.

Back on 1 Feb, ant was telling us that the satellite record was unreliable..."The temperature derived from satellites does not measure the surface where we reside."

Now he thinks the satellite record is useful because it shows that the BOM is under-estimating temperatures.

To believe in what the head of the CSIRO calls the religion of climate change requires a certain 'flexibility' of thought. The facts today might not be the facts tomorrow if they don't provide the right answer.

Rhrosty wrote:"And an elliptical orbit creates warmer times and cooler ones, natural variations, rather ever upward trend lines!"

Oh dear! The changes in the eccentricity of the elliptical orbit occur of periods of millennia, often over 10's of thousands of years. They most definitely can cause upward trends over the time frames of a few hundred years.