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Does the ALP have a future? : Comments

By Syd Hickman, published 28/1/2016

Only two good things have happened to the ALP in the last twenty years; Kevin Rudd and Tony Abbott. Both fizzled. Could another saviour appear?

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Labor just does not need more doctors or merchant bankers and lawyers however clever! Far too many we know best elitists there already!

It needs to draw from a far wider base and real world experience.

As far a I can see, fee setting doctors and lawyers have yet to genuinely compete for business, which would then allow the cream to rise to the top, and the dross to do what they've invariably done and head for a career in politics?

Where they are adept in blocking real reform/arguing the no case, or head for the loony toon greens.

Try to engage your average and usually dismissive and conservative doctor on a conversion around tax reform; and the usual answer will likely be, Canberra is swimming in tax?

And most selectively deaf lawyers can't see beyond the thousands the see as their share of your entitlement, and from whatever source, regardless of the wealth or patent penury of the client?

With one or two notable exceptions, where say settling out of court has resulted in a superior outcome for the client and a smaller fee for the practise?

Just not the kind of, I believe, inherently moral or listening, imaginative people we need in the people's parliament?
Rhrosty.
Posted by Rhrosty, Thursday, 28 January 2016 10:54:44 AM
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By the time of the election both sides will be having a future. The king of optimism said he could win the next election, so if you believe in that labor has every chance in the book.
The election will come down to policies, which will include Morrison’s tax reform. Abbott planning to run again will be a factor also, the Libs would be more secure without him chipping away.
Unless the Libs become real libs and not Conservative will play out as well. It is not going to be a gift by any means. Turnbull has done very little so far, everyone is waiting for something to happen.
Emmittions are rising rapidly, Abbott’s plan was never going to work. We had emmittions in decline with a price on carbon, That will have to be replaced or such like to again arrest rising emmittions.
Indecision over SSM will play out as well as well as the republic.
Posted by 579, Thursday, 28 January 2016 11:36:20 AM
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Rhrosty

Lawyers have dominated Paarliaments since Federation. Parliament is much about legal changes-legislation, complex law-convention based precedures and giving formal speeches. This makes lawyers a logical fit.

Would you prefer fat businessmen or ex-sportsmen, unionists, bogans, activists or Official Minority Quotas to be most thick on the ground in Parliament?
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Hi 579

New word? Do "emmittons" = emissions? How much of what something is an emmitton?

Regards
Posted by plantagenet, Thursday, 28 January 2016 2:39:26 PM
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Of course the ALP has a future.

It's the oldest political party in this country.

Most Australians support the policies of the Labor
Party but some people get mis-guided by the
false promises that the Liberals spin.

Of course as in everything people get tired of
the same old faces and like to vote for somebody
new from time to time. The latest Abbott debacle
was as a result of trust being lost, broken
promises, too many gaffes, and an assemblance of a
return to the 1950s.

Currently, Labor does not have a strong personality
to attract the doubters but there are capable
people in the wings who with time will come forth
and serve the nation.

Let us see what happens leading to the next election.

Of course - the government under the current leadership may still
surprise us.
Posted by Foxy, Thursday, 28 January 2016 3:01:05 PM
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This article is just a formula for more of the same.
That just will not do.
There has to be a future for the Labour Party as a one party state
will become dictatorial.

The Nationals and the Greens may well be essential in the new economy.
As you must have noticed everyone is struggling to increase their growth.
This is the future and zero growth will be with us for a long time.
What will be needed is not a government of the workers or a government of the bosses.

The future is a sustainable economy.

A future government will have to place heavy emphasis on agriculture.
The Global Economy is ending and a sustainable population is essential.
The export of minerals will never rise to anything like the last few years.
Essentially, we will have to be self supporting as will most
countries in the world.
We will need to be energy self supporting and that may require
drilling for oil in some unpopular places.
It is highly unlikely that we will be able to afford nuclear power.

So my prescription for a Sustainable Party in government is one that
can adapt the economy away from a big spending system to one that
relies to a much greater extent on local economies.
By that I mean that facilities such as hospitals and schools will
have to be supported by their local communities.
National governments will no longer have the ability to borrow large
sums as they have in the past because it will have become clear that
those large debts owed by all countries have all been defaulted.

Local Government will take on more responsibilities and Federal
government will be restricted to just the essential international
functions such as Defense, Foreign Affairs, Communications etc.

cont
Posted by Bazz, Thursday, 28 January 2016 3:56:01 PM
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contd

In an expensive energy regime we will need to redesign the way we grow
food and it is in subjects such as that where there is room for
different opinions to be expressed by different parties.
There may need to be a shift away from export driven grain production
because of costs towards market garden, more labour intensive market
garden farming closer to centres of population or alternatively
a redistribution of population away from large cities to expanded
country towns.
Another area of difference between parties would be energy policy.
Monetary policy would be another.

Certainly the era of multistory apartment blocks will be over.
A once in a millennium change is on the way and it will require a
reconstruction of politics.

I am sure that you can all think of problems that will have to be
overcome that will be come prominent in an expensive energy regime
and with very low international trade.
All this will have to be done in a contracting economy that might be verging on collapse.
Posted by Bazz, Thursday, 28 January 2016 4:12:56 PM
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