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Bargaining with the climate devils : Comments
By Lyn Bender, published 15/12/2015Beyond its declared purpose of deal making, the Paris Summit was a massive witnessing and outpouring of grief.
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Posted by Leo Lane, Wednesday, 16 December 2015 5:43:11 PM
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Dear Leo Lane,
I have four degrees. Each in a different field. A vocational degree and the others in Arts. But not one in science. That's why I leave the science to the scientists. And yourself? Posted by Mr Opinion, Wednesday, 16 December 2015 6:04:46 PM
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Mr Opinion
Do you understand that scientific proof cannot take the form of reliance on illogic reasoning? Yes? No? You are openly admitting that you actively advocate abandonment of reason and critical thought as a criterion of knowledge or action. So if a "scientist" tells you that animal reproduction is by spontaneous generation, or that burning is caused by phlogiston, you just flaccidly accept whatever they say without any critical inquiry of your own? Yes? Please acknowledge that that's what you're saying. And even if you identify a logical error in their process of reasoning, which they cannot and do not identify, acknowledge, address or disprove, or answer but with ad hominem or circularity, you still maintain that this illogic is "science"? Yes? That's what you're saying isn't it? And do you do the same with ethicists? If an "ethicist" tells you it's okay to attack people to get what you want, you "leave ethics to the ethicists"? And economists? If an "economist" tells you that by burning down our houses, we will make society richer because of all the "jobs" that will create, you suspend any critical judgment of your own, and just parrot what they say as the truth, because you "leave economics to the economists"? Please admit that's what you're saying? But if you're not, why not? With an intellectual class as flaccid, docile and self-interested as the warmists, it's no wonder there's a world wide hysteria over global warming. Posted by Jardine K. Jardine, Thursday, 17 December 2015 9:03:05 PM
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Dear Jardine K. Jardine,
I feel sad for people like you. Posted by Mr Opinion, Friday, 18 December 2015 4:15:24 AM
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Mr. Opinion,
Your degrees account for the naivety and immaturity of your contributions, which was the reason I had the impression that you were still at school. My qualification is in law, which I practiced for some years, so I have some experience in exploring flaws and deception in assertions by people, be they scientists or otherwise. Your assertion that science should be left to the scientists, is quite silly, apart from being unclear in its meaning. You have given no explanation of what you mean by it. Have you read the Climate-gate emails? Is it to miscreants like these to which you wish to leave the science. Michael Mann, one of the principal scientists in the group, is quite busy at the moment, having started a couple of court cases against people who have called him a fraud, his time is occupied preventing the matters from reaching a hearing, where the result would be quite significant, and devastating, for him, if he loses. His first ploy was to neglect to comply with a procedural requirement to produce to the court the material from which he concocted the notorious “hockey stick” graph. He has now complied, to avoid his action being struck out, but the matter still has no hearing date. The scientist Tom Karl, is filling in for him, running the misleadingly named website “Realclimate”, which asserts human caused climate change, with no science to support the assertion. Karl produced a paper to assert that the ”pause” in global warming did not occur. To support this he adjusted good data with bad data, which supported his baseless conclusion. http://judithcurry.com/2015/06/04/has-noaa-busted-the-pause-in-global-warming/ How do you propose your inappropriate slogan be implemented? Where are the scientists to whom you wish to leave the science? Posted by Leo Lane, Friday, 18 December 2015 11:01:19 AM
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Leo Lane,
I suggest you should stick to commenting on topics that are related to law. You don't have the knowledge needed to comment on scientific topics. Posted by Mr Opinion, Friday, 18 December 2015 2:09:11 PM
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If so, have you gained any tertiary qualification?
If so, what is it?