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The housing challenge: is Homeshare the answer? : Comments

By Patricia Edgar, published 11/11/2015

Alongside living changes involving multi-generational families, there are ingenious models for intergenerational living cropping up around the globe under the umbrella of Homeshare.

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Posted by plantagenet, Wednesday, 11 November 2015 10:50:38 AM
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Sorry love, homeshare is just not the answer, just a possible source of conflict?

Whereas affordable housing is!

And given the actual cost of building a steel framed house with 4 beds an ensuite and a fifty year structural guarantee, is still around $150,00, very doable if we just remove the public/private middleman with their unearned profit demands from the system; we could rollout affordable housing for all?

Albeit, we need to stop focusing on the demands of the big city developers alone?

The white shoe brigade with their "brown paper bags/electoral funding donations; making sure corrupt union officials are just not alone when it come to backhanders and bribes for outcomes?

Never before in human history have we set out quite deliberately to make something as basic shelter and a human right as unaffordable as it currently is!

What is missing here are governments of all political persuasion with moral compasses that are patently still in good working condition, to use some of our public money to acquire large tracts of suitable undeveloped land; then again using modest public funds to redevelop and connect with rapid rail?

Perhaps from a growing pool of money created for just such a purpose, rezone the land and resell it at a reasonable profit, yet still at a price any current income earner can actually afford!

Housing should only ever be seen as basic shelter and therefore a basic human right and not a means to make rent seekers obscenely rich? Obscene in the context of unearned income!

unearned from the usually eternally increasing rent and so called ever increasing property value! (bubble bubble)

WE need some method of moderating house prices. And a most liberal rollout of government supplied affordable housing might be as good as anywhere to start from.

Given Shylock rent seekers are only interested in money, not universal affordability, or better yet, some currently missing Christian attitudes? And not for show purposes just on Sunday!

A set in stone bricks and mortar mindset must be altered so new technologies and innovation get a look in!
Rhrosty
Posted by Rhrosty, Wednesday, 11 November 2015 10:57:44 AM
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"The time has come for multi-generational living"

Say what?! How does that fit with the leftist 'Progressive' policies that were and still are aimed at devaluing and finally destroying 'traditional' family and the extended family?

Wasn't the State going to provide?

Of course there is no way the 'Progressives' will ever admit that the pigeons have come home to roost, that their social experimentation had serious unexpected negative consequences.
Posted by onthebeach, Wednesday, 11 November 2015 11:14:48 AM
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Say what?! How does that fit with the leftist 'Progressive' policies that were and still are aimed at devaluing and finally destroying 'traditional' family and the extended family.

Beach
Can you explain what you are talking about .

I do not see how homeshare would ever be a part of society. It is not our culture to live with our parents or grandparents for life. When you get old and wise enough you fly the coup and make your own way in the world.

People that do that are sharing far more than a roof space, besides they do not have the health regulations that we do.
There are obstacles to affordable housing. The existence of covenants which control colours and size of dwelling .

Bare ground not yet sold, All residences have to be in excess of 250,000 $ building cost, with out buildings to be colorbond steel, no dogs or cats allowed.

Council regulations can force massive costs onto housing. Anyone that wants something out of the ordinary is in for a hell of a fight to even start
Posted by doog, Wednesday, 11 November 2015 3:45:54 PM
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plantagenet, Rhosty & onthebeach, from 10 to 15 million years ago until WW2 we lived in multigenerational or extended families. Then we moved to nuclear families. Then a few decades later we moved to single parent families. The result is a social, economic & cultural disaster carefully designed by communists "with malice aforethought" to kill the family. The answer is simple, rebuild the extended family unit, with changes to our tax/welfare mix, that encourage people to live in them. Discriminate against people who choose not to live in them.
Posted by imacentristmoderate, Wednesday, 11 November 2015 3:48:04 PM
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The human species is just around a million years old as a species! And there was a time when mutual protection demanded we share a few caves!

Peasant farmers eventually learned to build rudimentary shelters and strike off on their own. Albeit behind a common wall in some circumstances.

The depression era, forced some extended family sharing/overcrowding? But those days are gone!

Remove all the obvious profiteering and deliberately created limited supply. And almost anyone with a average income can afford a house/privacy.

And sharing as posed, will just delay getting affordable housing done, which far and away is the best solution and brings with it an economic boost.

Time for our erstwhile leaders to clean the duck manure from their ears, dust off the volumes on keynesian economics and just get on with what they're paid to produce! Other than the endless excuses of the incompetent or corrupt? And if the cap fits?
Rhrosty.
Posted by Rhrosty, Wednesday, 11 November 2015 6:18:35 PM
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Home sharing won't catch on here, as I think most intelligent Australians have moved on from the good old days of pre WW2 times. Most of the elderly I visit in the community who live with their younger relatives are not happy at all, and indeed elder abuse of the financial kind is rife in some of these homes.

With the current policy of the aged people having to use their own assets to buy their way into aged care facilities, I wonder what would happen to these 'share homes' if the older person physically couldn't stay at home anymore?

The Govt will consider the money put into the share home by the aged person as their 'asset', so unless the other members of the home can pay them out so their money goes to the aged care facility, then the share home will have to be sold!

Unless of course the younger household members can give up work to stay home and care for very physically or mentally disabled older relatives in the share home.
It is not an easy path to take...
Posted by Suseonline, Wednesday, 11 November 2015 10:27:49 PM
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I built a granny flat for my mum, & she lived in it for 20 years after dad died. She lived totally independently, apart from not having a car. She used community networks, & only needed us for transport occasionally. It did mean help was close by, & perhaps kept her out of a nursing home for much longer.

Since she has gone, I have had a daughter in it for a year or so, which was only annoying when she wanted to drive around on my lawn or garden. There was some conflict due to the different priorities of the young & old.

My son & his lady are now there. This is more difficult. After years on a yacht, where you may need anything at any time, in the dark, in a gale, I want everything where it belongs at all times. Tomorrow, or next week is too late to put back something you have used.

Thirty somethings have the right to live their life in their own way, just not in my damn home they don't.

Does this lady think I have spent all my life developing things as I want them, to give it all up to suit an immigration program. What a bloody silly idea.
Posted by Hasbeen, Wednesday, 11 November 2015 11:33:54 PM
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Rhosty, when you look backwards with the benefit of 20/20 hindsight, in the cold grey light of dawn, it becomes crystal clear that the land of OZ was happier, healthier & wealthier up until about the 1950s.

1, Keynesian communist e-CON-omics is what got us where we are today.

2, overcrowding during the great depression only occurred among the extremely poor & their numbers were not that high. i have relatives, friends who lived through it & NOBODY in Queensland starved.

3, limited housing supply is caused by communist Keynesians.

4, even if supply of housing was increased the Keynesian communists would allow more communist Chinese to come in & buy more housing. Your children, grand children would not be able to buy any housing unless they are rich.

5, it took a village to raise a child because complete extended families used to live in them, if not in the same house then next door or round the corner.

Suseonline, still supporting the communist matriarchy i see.

1, elder abuse is like DV, another lie of the communist matriarchy, almost all of it is being done by either non family members or feminist daughters.

2, policy on assets of older family members can be changed.

3, read Hasbeen's comment on how positive extended families can be for elders.

4, if more young women trained as nurses then maybe each extended family would have some more nurses of their own.

5, the good old days WERE the good old days & can be again. Feminist communism has 200 years of proven failure behind it. Grow up & get over yourself.

Hasbeen, hear, hear. This lady is another feminist communist pursuing antisocial, anticommunity policies to "destroy the joynt".
Posted by imacentristmoderate, Thursday, 12 November 2015 6:08:32 AM
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Lol Imacentristmoderate, still living in the past I see, and still paranoid about feminists.
There is no point arguing with people like you.
Posted by Suseonline, Thursday, 12 November 2015 10:21:34 AM
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