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The standard you walk past : Comments

By Vic Alhadeff, published 8/9/2015

Ismail al-Wahwah, spiritual leader of Hizb ut-Tahrir, accused Jews of corrupting the world, describing them as 'the most evil creature of Allah'.

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Hi shades of blue

I think Foxy’s summary is pretty good, as if David f’s.

What Ismail al-Wahwah said was vile; but preventing him from saying it is not going the change what he thinks, nor those who think like him. If he acts on his evil ideology, or incites others to do so, he will break the law
Posted by Rhian, Friday, 11 September 2015 2:48:40 PM
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So once again Jews must die before action is taken and Wahwah enjoys the comfort of all that Sydney Australia has to offer. Does this cover - "I may not agree with what you say, but I will fight to the death for your right to say it"? How utterly incongruous!
I take my leave now as I can only repeat what I believe to be true. "words are objects - sound objects" and they penetrate as effectively as bullets.
Thank you each one for your contribution and teaching.
Shana tova.
Posted by shades of blue, Friday, 11 September 2015 4:17:24 PM
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Dear Shades of Blue,

Thank you for honouring us with your wishes of
Shanah Tovah. May all of us be worthy of abundant years.

Of course words matter and as I stated earlier -
the right to the freedom of using words is trumped by the
right of people not be harmed by those words.
Same as the right to own a gun is trumped by the right
not to be shot by one.

Freedom of speech therefore does have certain limitations.
People who enjoy the rights of free speech have a duty to
respect other people's rights. And this should be made
quite clear to fanatics - who want to take advantage of
this freedom.
Posted by Foxy, Friday, 11 September 2015 6:23:35 PM
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Something familiar in the tone of your sarcasm FOXY...Shabbat shalom and farewell.
Posted by shades of blue, Friday, 11 September 2015 9:20:03 PM
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Dear shades of blue,

I have stated simple facts with no hidden meanings
yet you accuse me of sarcasm.

I'm sorry to say that I cannot help you with whatever your
problem may be.
Shavua Tov.
Posted by Foxy, Friday, 11 September 2015 10:14:48 PM
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'Replace Democracy with religious dictatorship' has to be one of the most ludicrous, backward, idiotic comments to ever be uttered in a civilized country. This extremist leader and his extremist cult style 'religion', have no place in a civilized society and should be banned from any non-Muslim country. The hypocrisy is so typical of an extremist splinter group bringing the Trojan horse to life. They are not Australians and will tell you so, therefore the Government must act in our own best interest and send them back to their beloved homeland and take with them their 'eye for eye, blood for blood, destruction for destruction'.
Posted by jodelie, Saturday, 12 September 2015 10:21:03 AM
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