"Figures gathered in the U.S suggest that only about 4% of homosexuals will marry if given the opportunity"

So why are you homophobic bigots so exercised about it then?

Just get it over and done with and move on.

Suseonline, "Show me one post of mine where I have trashed heterosexual marriage?"

LOL Come off the grass, you have taken every conceivable opportunity and then some, to disrespect marriage while lauding the SSM that you advocate and never admitting such relationships might have their own flaws and maybe even more so.

While on the subject, there is NO need to call it 'traditional' or 'heterosexual', since the one man, one women coupling is the well understood definition and expectation.

It is all aimed at devaluing marriage to lessen its worth, while strangely advocating it for admittedly a higher risk group, very few of whom are even interested and where the majority are already smarting from the State interference in their affairs (double meaning accepted). Gays used to be able to make and break their own relationships and in what manner of relationship they liked, but then along came Gay Pride riding on the much larger wave of Cultural Marxism to decree that Big Sister State with courts and lawyers would now tell gays if they are 'de factos' or not and how to arrange their assets on moving on.

Arguably the most significant and sinister devaluing of marriage by you and other political 'Progressives' is to assert that marriage is just about 'love'.

What a foolish and vexatious thing to say. It suggests that you never had any idea, no comprehension at all, of the vows you and your spouse presumably entered into on your wedding day.

Gays, especially the lefties, should never have allowed the feminists to herd them into the corral of State institutionalisation and control that suited the feminists' idealism.

The public, particularly easily led youth, are being shortchanged and misinformed by the SSM activists who pretend among other fabrications, that there is no other option than forcing gays under the Marriage Law, when the obvious alternative is secular and with some freedom, elbow room. To make and be responsible for their own decisions as they formerly were capable of doing.

Craig,
Because it's based on lies and false premises, same sex marriage isn't progressive, identifying the causes of and finding an effective treatment for same sex attraction would be progress.
For the record I'm not "Homophobic", I've just seen gays in the wild so to speak and have known them well enough not to be shocked by anything they do. Don't worry, the Gay underground is gradually coming above ground for all to see, you think "homophobia" is a problem now, wait until they really star rubbing it in. If you really want I can post some stuff from public Gay Pride events in the U.S but I don't know how long pictures of a naked man rolling about in the middle of the street in a pool of his own urine or a kerbside anal sex display by a group of men wearing only leather chaps and SS caps would stay up on a "scholarly" forum.

So you couldn't find any evidence of these 'trashing' heterosexual marriage posts you dreamed up I wrote then OTB?

Oh dear, you are caught out lying again then I see....lol!
I think I will continue leaving you to it....

Suse

'However, he has no right to call those of us who believe in marriage, or are currently married, neurotic. I find that offensive and ignorant in the extreme.'

Yes, it may be offensive, but I'm not so sure about ignorant. The term 'neurosis' is routinely used either to describe symptoms of mental instability or as a form of insult and abuse. However, neurosis is also a fact of life. Very few people remain immune from neurotic thinking patterns.

I'm afraid I've witnessed far too many dysfunctional 'happy' marriages and acrimonious divorces to keep believing in women's Cinderella fantasies or men's Good Provider tropes

Suseonline,

I stand by what I wrote. It is my opinion and here is the full context:

<Suseonline, ".. those of us who believe in marriage, or are currently married, neurotic"

Says the poster who has spent years disrespecting (heterosexual) marriage and listing every flaw real or imagined, to lower its credibility, usefulness and value to society.

-All to 'prove' that the millions of present and intending married citizens were missing nothing at all if the Marriage Act was trashed to suit the vanity and provide borrowed legitimacy for Gay Pride activists. Activists who up until recently would have been highly offended and aghast if anyone suggested that the horrid stricture(sic) of heterosexual coupling might be applied to them and their 'outlaw' lifestyle.

Short memories abound among leftists. Or is it just hypocrisy and carelessness with the truth?

Good luck too trying to gag opposing views and deny freedom of speech with that childish, 'It is none of their business..'.>
[onthebeach, Tuesday, 30 June 2015 11:50:25 AM]

I have no intention of going back through your posts. Besides, you are also the poster who constantly demands that others show proof while never providing any herself and baldly stating that. You always say it is your opinion and you require no proof.

OK, to reciprocate in kind I am more than happy to let others judge my opinion of your posts on the subject.

You have a habit of finding ever possible fault with (heterosexual) married people and then some to diminish the worth and relevance of (heterosexual) marriage, while affording your advocated gay marriage and gays every possible positive and then some.