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Marriage (Privatisation) Act 2015 : Comments

By Jonathan J. Ariel, published 29/5/2015

Religion is privatised. Why not marriage?

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oh dear
Jay of Melbourne there is nothing you could say that anybody would believe. Logic is not your friend.

Denny when you find yourself agreeing with runner its' time to take a good hard look at yourself, you've clearly lost your way.

Runner what has sodomy got to do with same sex marriage? Why are you so full of hate?

Lastly Jonathan you just can't help yourself can you. Got to make the childish remark no matter what your talking about.
Citing an article written 8 years ago is down right dumb.
Posted by Cobber the hound, Friday, 29 May 2015 2:13:11 PM
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Hi there RUNNER...

I was discussing (in part) the merits of Gay Marriage with another individual who was clearly a homosexual, and he was berating me for my 'obvious' bigoted attitude, when I was a copper, towards gay people ? I relayed to him a conversation I had with a Pentecostal Minister who in part, described the homosexual act as, '...against the laws of God and of nature...'. I notice you also draw a comparison, with that of sodomy when you say '...sodomy being a unhealthy act...' ?

Whatever one personally and privately thinks of homosexual practises in our community, or the whole question of Gay Marriage for that matter ? As often uttered in a Court of Law, 'res ipsa loquitur' - the thing speaks for itself - ?
Posted by o sung wu, Friday, 29 May 2015 2:28:33 PM
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I hope that, when marriage is privatised like the churches, my own gets the tax exemptions that churches enjoy.
Posted by Asclepius, Friday, 29 May 2015 2:39:46 PM
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Marriage 'privatisation' is not a 'novel concept', through most of history, marriage, except for the rich, was a private affair, a couple simply decided to live together. Husband and wife were recognised as a married couple by the community and the Church in the Middle Ages, and pre-Christian times, the relationship did not require the imprimatur of the state.
Posted by mac, Friday, 29 May 2015 3:23:00 PM
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Cobber,
That's the typical reaction when pro Gay research is quoted back to a pro Gay poster, religious types don't have a leg to stand on if they insist on using their tired, parochial talking points, if they really want to score some points they need to start using academic sources.
On the basis of the available evidence a child will have the best start in life in a home with both biological opposite sex parents present or a house with two Gay men followed by a home with a single mother or father and the least favourable outcomes appear to come from homes with two Lesbian adults present.
No reputable source denies the generally poor mental health, substance abuse and interpersonal dysfunction among Lesbian and bisexual women or that their problems are far worse even than those found in the Gay male population.
Posted by Jay Of Melbourne, Friday, 29 May 2015 4:38:49 PM
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by definition, in Articles 1 and 2 of the Family Code in the Philippines, marriage is considered one of the most sacred social institutions and "a contract of permanent union between a man and a woman", so that one of its essential requisites is "the legal capacity of the contracting parties who must be a male and a female."

Article 46(4) considers that concealment of homosexuality or lesbianism existing at the time of the marriage is a sufficient enough ground for annulment of the marriage.

Article 55(6) considers homosexuality or lesbianism itself as a ground for legal separation even if not concealed.

As attorney Jose C. Sison writing in today's Philippine Star puts it, there is a petitioner for same sex marriage here in the Philippines who avers that banning same sex marriage violates the rights of homosexuals and lesbians to due process and equal protection of law - Sec 1, Art III; to "decisional and marital privacy" - Sec 2, Art III - and to found a family in accordance with their religious or "irreligious convictions" - Sec 3, Art XV.

Sounds like common sense to me, but not if you're dealing with a person who has a closed mind and is suffering from invincible ignorance.

Or how about this: my religious conviction as a fundamentalist and faithful Mormon allow me the right to have a harem of at least 365 concubines, so what's wrong with that?
(so why did the U.S. federal govt give the Mormons such a hard time over this?)
Posted by SHRODE, Friday, 29 May 2015 4:40:12 PM
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