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Humanity beware! : Comments

By Murray Hunter, published 29/5/2015

High population densities in the third world and the exponential rise in cross continental migration are symptoms of the biggest problem humanity has ever faced.

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Actually Yuyutsu, your proposal for dealing with boat people is one of the cruellest of any suggested.

In your proposal those hopeful boat people who manage to land on Australian shores will be escorted to the desert outback and then forced to fend for themselves; that is unless an Australian citizen offers to take them in and take responsibility for their well being in perpetuity.

So instead of being rejected at the border with an option of either being returned to their homeland or given sanctuary in detention until an alternative country agrees to accept them; they are doomed to starve or die of heat exhaustion in the desert.

I don't think you are as compassionate or fair minded as you think you are, Yuyutsu.
Posted by ConservativeHippie, Friday, 29 May 2015 6:25:51 PM
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Yuyutsu, your solution is far more heartless and brutal than simply saying "No, no more".

They are motivated by envy.

How long do you think envious people who risked their lives crossing the globe will slave under the sun and live in a shack?
When they know across the mountain range is a big city with all sorts of goodies.

Your principles value liberty, but ultimately would undermine it.

A never-ending flood would arrive, causing tremendous social disruption/disorder.

Before long, people will be clamouring for peace and order and will happily don the uniforms of the most promising draconian headkickers.

Better to avoid both fates and just say No now.
Posted by Shockadelic, Friday, 29 May 2015 6:51:09 PM
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But they do "get it", Yuyusta. How do you think the illegal bludgers here now survive? Even if they are locked up, they are fed, clothed etc at high taxpayer cost.

Do you really think that if they landed somewhere in the outback they would starve? No, our weak politicians would look after them at our expense.

We have the LEGAL right to stop them before they get here. Morals are personal constructs and have nothing to do with the situation.

You are a thoughtful and courteous person, and I did not really mean that you were a bleeding heart. I was referring more to open borders proponents in general.
Posted by ttbn, Friday, 29 May 2015 7:20:38 PM
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A couple of decades ago Sierra Leone was awash with diamonds and gold mines, other places like Nigeria; even now, swimming in black gold or Texas tea!

And all that this inherent wealth has produced is conflict/nepotism and or petty tyrants/rebels murdering and kidnapping their own folk.

To #1 control a particular area!?

#2, obtain slave labor to work the larger mining provinces?

#3 recruit more cannon fodder as the child soldiers/sacrificial lambs they already exploit, are reduced by conflict!

#4 eliminate countervailing religious belief; mostly as Muslims murdering Christians and thereby acquiring sex slaves; and or, their land and stock holdings, what have you!

The smaller mineral provinces infested by crawling humanity seeking their personal Eldorados; and all too often buried in it!?

And until recently, Africa was home to the world's largest refugee camps!

We will never ever solve these or similar problems by providing an alternative homeland for the dispossessed/move the hate and conflict to these shores!

But rather take up the cudgels on behalf of the dispossessed!

It's amazing what might be achieved by arming and training the dispossessed, and assisting their endeavors with a few gunships equipped with night vision, a few rockets and mini guns, that can be used against the petty tyrant's forces, when they are caught in the open; is sadly, an essential part of the solution!

As it was during the Rwandan/Ugandan/Cambodian genocides!

If history teaches just one lesson, it teaches that tyrants can never ever be appeased or turned by peaceful means; or bought with money or treasure; which inevitably leads to endless demands for more; and even more displaced people! The only successful outcomes!
Rhrosty.
Posted by Rhrosty, Saturday, 30 May 2015 1:14:08 PM
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This is a superb article from Project Syndicate to remind us of history.
https://www.project-syndicate.org/commentary/europe-refugee-problem-history-by-zeid-raad-al-hussein-2015-05

and this one makes some interesting points

https://www.project-syndicate.org/commentary/europe-north-africa-refugee-crisis-by-javier-solana-2015-05

"Lebanon, a country of just 4.5 million people, has taken in an estimated 1,116,000 refugees"
Posted by Valley Guy, Saturday, 30 May 2015 1:25:09 PM
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"Lebanon, a country of just 4.5 million people, has taken in an estimated 1,116,000 refugees"

So Valley Guy, are you suggesting Australia should take around 6-7 million refugees, so we aren't outdone by Lebanon?

I'll bet Lebanon didn't take over a million Hindu's, Buddhists or some other alien religious culture to their own.
Posted by ConservativeHippie, Saturday, 30 May 2015 2:48:51 PM
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