Hi Jay of Melbourne,

You are right about things not being as they seem, but it is bigger than you think. The US and Saudis are behind Islamic Fundamentalism. It sounds shocking, but stay with me.

The Saudis are our closest Arab allies. The US and UK sell them $billions of weapons. After the oil shocks of the 1970s, we came to an agreement. They agreed to give the West a secure supply of oil. We promised to keep them in power - the house of Saud is an absolute monarchy with an appalling human rights record. No sign of democracy here.

The Saudis just happen to follow a fundamentalist version of Islam - Wahhabism/Salafism, and they spend much of their wealth spreading its teachings around the globe. Salafis believe in offensive jihad and spreading Sharia law.

We have been supporting Islamic fundamentalism for a long time. Google Operation Cyclone - where the CIA backed the Mujaheddin in Afghanistan.

More recently the US and Saudis have been backing Al Qaeda in Libya, Al Nusra Front (Al Qaeda) in Syria to get rid of Gaddafi and Assad (both secular regimes - they kept Al Qaeda out until we invaded).

Judicial Watch recently published formerly classified documents from the U.S. Department of Defense and State Department, which show the US is supporting ISIS. I know it is hard to believe, but Google it.

It starts to make sense when you realise the George H Bush was a former Director of the CIA and an oil billionaire with close ties to the Saudis including the Bin Laden family - google Bush and the Carlyle Group. Dick Cheney was CEO of Halliburton before becoming VP. The revolving door between government, CIA, and corporations is called the corporatocracy - they are the only ones winning in this war on terror. They play both sides - it's good for business.

The fact that the fear of Islamic terrorism has allowed them to take away our freedoms and right to privacy is just an added bonus.

They care as much about us as we do about refugees.

Don't you just love it when a Chinese like Mr Chek calls white Australians "racist?

Hey Chek, I would not say that your own people are the most racist in the world, but they are making a grab for the coveted title. Chinese pontificating about racism to Australians is like Nazis lecturing to us about racism.

The Chinese may believe in evolution and that humans are descended from apes, but they do not believe that they are descended from black Africans. They claim that unlike then rest of humanity, the Chinese evolved spontaneously within China, and that is the official Chinese government position which is taught in Chinese schools. The Chinese still have "miscegenation" laws banning Chinese from having sexual relations with blacks. They don't want their pure race polluted with African blood. The Chinese are famous for creating Chinese only Ghettoes everywhere in the world. The Chinese only want to live with Chinese. White Europeans are a bit the same way only nowhere near as racist as the Chinese, and that was why European Australia had a White Australia Policy. Chinese calling the kettle black? Up yours.

So, when are your cashed up Chinese relatives going to show some "leadership" and accept a few boatloads of these mostly Bangladeshi labourers looking for a job? The answer is never. To begin with, the Bangladeshis are too black for the Chinese, and they are Muslims. The Chinese are not as stupid as westerners in importing Muslims, they have enough trouble with the ones they already have. Although, being a smart race, they are a lot more practical than wimpy Europeans when it comes to dealing with troublesome Muslim minorities. They just shoot them, dilute them through immigration, and breed them out.

Of course, your little speech will go over well with the likes of Susieonline, Plantagenet, and BJelly. These western self loathers have a compulsive desire to be moral puritans who are a cut above the rest of the whites in Australia. They are the very "pontificating Australians" that you sneer at, and they are the ones that agree with you.

Lego "Of course, your little speech will go over well with the likes of Susieonline, Plantagenet, and BJelly. These western self loathers have a compulsive desire to be moral puritans who are a cut above the rest of the whites in Australia"

Thank goodness you didn't lump me in with the charming Jay of Melbourne, JayB, Runner and Hasbeen, as that would have really upset this 'moral puritan'...

Not content to bag every Muslim on the planet, you are slagging off the Chinese now?
Wow, you must have a very low opinion of yourself if you need to put down every other different person to you to feel big about yourself?

Re your last stupid post, BJelly.

Almost everything you wrote is perfectly true. The Saudis are not our friends, they are our enemies. The problem which your deplorable lack of intellect is unable to focus upon, is that any alternative government in Arabia will almost certainly be a lot worse than the Saudis. The Saudis want to rot Europe out with Muslim immigration, and people like yourself want to help them because your humanitarian ideals make you suckers for Islamic domination. And as the custodians of Mecca, the Saudis can hardly become liberal democracies, can they? But ISIS are a lot worse, they want to declare jihad on the whole western world, right now.

The Saudis have done a deal with Al Qaida, leave us alone and go and Jihad the infidels somewhere else, and we will slip you a few bob. But I don't think the boys in ISIS are going to play the same game.

ISIS in control of Arabia, Kuwait, Iraq and half of the entire world's oil supplies? Use your brains for once and think beyond your ideological blinkers.

C'mon mate, you can do it. Focus. Concentrate.

Hi LEGO,
I think you mistake me for someone who likes fundamentalist Islam. I don't.

I deplore anyone who thinks their ideology/religion is more important than people and life on this planet.

I am all for stopping the spread of Wahhabism, I wish our political leaders felt the same, but it serves their purposes.

Islamic fundamentalists make useful foot-soldiers. They will fight to the death. They keep us scared and confused so our political masters can keep us in a perpetual state of war. This means money for their corporations which just happen to specialise in armaments, private security, private prisons and construction. Those no-bid pentagon contracts are big business.

If we have the sense not to distance ourselves from others because of race, religion, etc, we can find people of good will who can help stop the spread of Whahabi Islam, including moderate Islamists who also suffer from this conflict - as we know more Muslims have been killed by Muslims in this war on terror, than us Westerners.

The 1% run the world. They already have everything they could possiblly want, but they want more. They want it all. They want to control us. That is where those handy anti-terror laws and mass surveillance laws that strip us of our legal protections like the presumption of innocence and ditching habeas corpus are so good for them.

As corny as it sounds only by loving one another and breaking the cycle of violence will it stop. We need to be the change we want to see in the world. This means caring for each other - especially the most vulnerable. Be willing to sacrifice for one another.

But that isn't part of our dog eat dog ideology that is so popular these days. If they can keep us divided they will win. We can change things if we can work together and reject their world view.

Hate and fear are winning at the moment, so our chances are slim at best.

Onya LEGO, never let a chance to kick someone when they're down pass you by.

What a guy!