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The gay cake controversy : Comments

By Richard King, published 27/5/2015

As Christians, the McArthurs could not reconcile themselves to expressing in icing a sentiment that they knew in their hearts to be contrary to God’s plan.

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IsMise:

It could well have been a setup. I had these same suspicions myself. If it was a setup then the question should be asked why you would need to set someone up unless you were trying to bully them into accepting your sexuality.

There seems no other reason. Lee does not need to prove a principle since the principle of discrimination is already enshrined in law. If you really wanted that particular cake then you would shop around until you got it. It seems the opportunity to bully was more important than having the cake and maybe the cake was just a ploy in order to make someone feel uncomfortable. Perhaps Lee’s real problem is not with the non acceptance of his sexuality but with religion’s non acceptance or with religion in general or with that particular bakery or those particular owners. Whatever his problem it was not about discrimination.

Such bullying needs to be exposed for what it is and it is becoming all too common a tactic from the homosexual community and its supporters. You only need to bully when you are insecure and every time it surfaces it is a sure sign that those who indulge in it are insecure about their sexuality. They are exposing their insecurities for everyone to see and people are tiring of such preciousness.
Posted by phanto, Friday, 29 May 2015 11:01:01 AM
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Phanto, you go from perhaps perhaps/a conspiracy theory, to treating said conspiracy theory as virtual ipso facto evidence! An interesting juxtaposition!

Of course we should prosecute all such conspiracies, to the full extent of the law!

Always providing we can prove such conspiracies were actually evident/ever at all, rather than the perhaps, perhaps, mere musings of this or that excuse making mealy mouthed squirming like a worm on a hook advocate or closet homophobe?

I rather think this would and should have been a non issue rather than front page news?

And would have if Ashers had made their (two days late) religious convictions/apparent homophobic repugnance a first order issue, and before they, it would seem, dishonestly accepted the order and payment; and it would seem, with no intention of ever completing the commission; there just wouldn't have been an issue!?

People who have had their belly full of this sniggered snide discrimination, have a right to say, enough is already far too much!

And that push back has to start somewhere? And if it has to be an unfortunate Belfast cake shoppe, so be it!

And if the subsequent commercial boycott destroys the business and several lifestyles?

Then possibly one single homophobic bigot (cake baking fool) can hold their head aloft; saying, look at me Lord, I did all this Master, when will I get my just and deserved reward?

For mine, accepted prepayment is usually followed by the ordered and paid for good or service! No if buts or maybes! End of story!
Rhrosty.
Posted by Rhrosty, Friday, 29 May 2015 12:47:50 PM
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Rhrosty "accepted prepayment is usually followed by the ordered and paid for good or service!"

Ever heard of "refunds"?
Businesses frequently cannot fulfil accepted orders.

We do not know the precise details here.
Was the order submitted through an automatic online payment?
Was it taken by the work experience kid?
Were they flustered and busy that day, just leave it on the counter, honey!
We don't know.

Is Mise and phanto, I too smell a rat.
These "frivolous or vexatious" cases are often set-ups by pushy princess activists.

Rhrosty "enough is already far too much! And that push back has to start somewhere?"

Unfortunately for you the backlash will be in the other direction.

People are getting sick to death of political correctness, brainwashing propaganda, liberty-destroying "protections", the "compulsory inclusiveness" bulldozing of national identities, bullying brat activists, etc.

Enjoy your never-achieved Utopia while it lasts.
Political realism is making a comeback soon.
Posted by Shockadelic, Friday, 29 May 2015 2:19:51 PM
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I get the impression from the net that Ashers are getting more business and that the free advertising is worth much more than 500 quid.

From Google

"Ashers Baking Co.
Directions

43 Google reviews
Bakery
Address: 19 Royal Avenue, Belfast, County Antrim BT1 1FB, United Kingdom
Phone:+44 28 9031 5957
Write a review
Reviews
"Excellent service, good products and reasonably priced."
"Brilliant service dnt believe the lies about rudeness."
"But they will sell you food with bacon in it."
Posted by Is Mise, Friday, 29 May 2015 10:31:16 PM
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Rhrosty, yeah it's not like homophobia could ever be anything more than an irrational response based on ignornace...or could it?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eE9JlONzrVU
See some of us don't get all our information from novels, TV and movies have actually known Gay men to behave in ways which are shocking, crude, corrupt,violent and above all selfish, we've seen first hand why until the 1980's homosexuality was treated as an anti social personality trait.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FqMr06Jexd8
Posted by Jay Of Melbourne, Friday, 29 May 2015 10:34:21 PM
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TV and movies JOM? Interesting! You need to reach into the world of theatre and fiction to find examples that make your apparent homophobia acceptable?

And where these examples were literal, you don't suppose it could have anything to do with a lifetime of Gay bashing and discrimination; some of it official, do you?

I believe men who follow obviously gay men into toilet blocks and what have you and then near beat them near to death, don't have perfect manners either?

Nor can we say any different about gold digging or career oriented women?

Even so, not in any way an excuse to continue with the same old same old discrimination/denial of equal rights or covert or overt abuse!

I know, we've taken all the fun and sport out of it?

But you'll get over it!?

Me, I pity the poor bastards and what they have to contend with their whole lives through; and mostly because of inherently unfair cretins?

Why you'd even have us believe the Holocaust just didn't happen if you had your way?

Which sort of sums up you personal grip on factual reality, doesn't it?
Rhrosty.
Posted by Rhrosty, Saturday, 30 May 2015 2:27:19 PM
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