The National Forum   Donate   Your Account   On Line Opinion   Forum   Blogs   Polling   About   
The Forum - On Line Opinion's article discussion area



Syndicate
RSS/XML


RSS 2.0

Main Articles General

Sign In      Register

The Forum > Article Comments > The environmental impact of creation > Comments

The environmental impact of creation : Comments

By Ian Plimer, published 20/4/2015

At the court hearing, God was cross-examined and asked why He wanted to undertake this massive project, especially as it appeared that it was extremely unlikely that any social benefit would derive from His venture.

  1. Pages:
  2. 1
  3. Page 2
  4. 3
  5. 4
  6. 5
  7. All
It's part of the great appeal of the piece that he has impeccable credentials on creationism - he doesn't believe in it. Context is the handmaiden of humour, and very few on the Greens side understand one or have the other.
Posted by GrahamY, Monday, 20 April 2015 10:47:45 AM
Find out more about this user Visit this user's webpage Recommend this comment for deletion Return to top of page Return to Forum Main Page Copy comment URL to clipboard
It is amazing the amount of hate and invective the Greens seem to generate.
I am of the opinion that it is because in the main they are telling it as it is and not embroidering facts to hide fear and greed.
So sad that people are brainwashed into believing the antigreen message and not able to think things through for themselves.
As for religions, I have discovered the reason for them at last.
Humans are the only creatures that are able to reason and realize that they are going to die one day.
Most of their brains are unable to cope with this and they have developed a defence with religions.
They are now able to fool them selves that they will live for ever in some version of paradise and so they are safe from really dieing.
Posted by Robert LePage, Monday, 20 April 2015 11:23:42 AM
Find out more about this user Recommend this comment for deletion Return to top of page Return to Forum Main Page Copy comment URL to clipboard
It was just a little humorous, if entirely sacrilegious and a trifle overdone.

This however just exposes the obsessive nature of the denialist camp, who also deny God, creation or even shock horror, intelligent design.

And only ever rely on a cherry picked science to reinforce their histrionics. i.e., the creation by pure chance of a complex human being, is less likely just on the odds alone, than a whirlwind whipping through a junkyard and creating a fully functioning and flyable 747!

And to invoke the environmentalist holy dictum, if you repeat something enough times, then even vastly more complex life evolved from a single celled organism, is the result!

Even then in the absence whatsoever, of nitrogenous coke, which would have at the very least, provided evidence of the mainstay of fundamental environmentalism, any primordial soup, which allegedly produced the first single cell and by pure unadulterated pure chance/endless repetition!

If everything is energy, and energy can be neither created nor destroyed, then everything that now exists had to exist in another form before creation! Dark matter perhaps?

The sun is responsible for most of our climate and given it has been waning since the mid seventies?

What then has been melting the formerly permanently frozen tundra, the ice sheets and the formerly permanent summer sea ice of Alaska? Overheating denialists perhaps?

Even so, perhaps Ian and his devotees, can explain what it is they have against vastly cheaper carbon free thorium (halve price) power, or indeed, even cheaper (quarter price) carbon neutral biogas coupled to ceramic fuel cells, that will halve domestic power yet again?

Moreover, we'll need to run out of humans before we run out of human waste!

Perhaps the only thing at risk here, is the captive energy market that supports the coal community and geologists like Ian?

You'd think that a geologist would know something of the paleontologistical record and what that tells us; and as clear for those who know how to read it, as pages in a book!
Rhrosty
Posted by Rhrosty, Monday, 20 April 2015 1:23:09 PM
Find out more about this user Recommend this comment for deletion Return to top of page Return to Forum Main Page Copy comment URL to clipboard
Apologies and correction, paleontologistical should be read as palaeontological.
Rhrosty.
Posted by Rhrosty, Monday, 20 April 2015 1:45:11 PM
Find out more about this user Recommend this comment for deletion Return to top of page Return to Forum Main Page Copy comment URL to clipboard
"...the creation by pure chance of a complex human being, is less likely just on the odds alone, than a whirlwind whipping through a junkyard and creating a fully functioning and flyable 747"

That's right, a human being is vastly more complex than a 747, but Rhosty misses the point that physicists don't claim chance created a man. The science supports the existence of evolution, with man and all other life arising from from a simplest, spontaneously created by chance, life form capable of reproduction/replication.

A 747 can only arise through a process far more certain than chance, i.e. intelligent design.

Have fun god-botherers, go for it.
Posted by Luciferase, Monday, 20 April 2015 3:54:59 PM
Find out more about this user Recommend this comment for deletion Return to top of page Return to Forum Main Page Copy comment URL to clipboard
I think this right up there with such conservative satire as "Julia Gillard on the menu" and "Abbotts tax plan". Although to be fair, Abbotts tax plan was really described as more of a 'morbid joke' than satire.

Ho ho, what a laugh we had at your expense.

I'll look forward to your advertising your Adelaide Fringe Festival gig on OLO Ian!

I'll be there with bells on.
Posted by Bugsy, Monday, 20 April 2015 3:57:37 PM
Find out more about this user Recommend this comment for deletion Return to top of page Return to Forum Main Page Copy comment URL to clipboard
  1. Pages:
  2. 1
  3. Page 2
  4. 3
  5. 4
  6. 5
  7. All

About Us :: Search :: Discuss :: Feedback :: Legals :: Privacy