William Binney - Wikipedia - So you cant say he's not the real deal.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Binney_(U.S._intelligence_official)

Let's be honest, Christianity makes you gay
All that love your neighbor and turn the other cheek
All disciples hanging around on the beat
All very very gay - not that there is anything wrong with that
Just stating the obvious

Hmm AC, I watched that video and it was very interesting.
I noted that he said they are collecting everything. ie including content.
He did not say for how long they store it. The only clue on that that
I picked up was a comment by Alex Jones that they could go back and
collect all someones emails, or was it Binney that said that ?

That suggests an infinitely large database on 5 billion people !
Presumably the other 2 billion do not have mobile phones.
That part was referring to tracking everybodies movements.

So they are recording 5 billion peoples phone calls, location details,
emails, video down loads, pictures of the kids, holiday snaps etc etc
as well as all internet purchase transactions, browsing & downloads
skype contacts, airline bookings, electricity bill payments, bank
transfers etc etc etc, and keeping this forever !

I just do not believe it. I suspect that they discard after a period
unless flagged by one of the analysts. I noted Binney commented that
the analysts were overloaded. That I can believe even if there are 6000 of them.

However the premise that they collect everything seems to be true but
whether the five eyes have full access I don't know, it might just
be on a need to know basis. I guess this discussion will come to
someones attention since certain names and words have been mentioned.

Good morning/evening to all of you and keep up the good work and keep
at the ones that need attention and stop wasting time on the likes of us.
We are your paymasters you know !

AC

You suggest, quite correctly that

'Not all Muslims support ISIS or are religious extremists.
Not all Jews support Zionism
Not all Christians support Israel.'

So who on earth ever suggests otherwise ? Of the 1.6 billion Muslims around the world, of course only a small fraction support any extremists, and only a fraction of those support ISIS - perhaps 5 % of 5 % - as well as a proportion of the opportunist 'Left' in many Western countries. All up, barely ten million fanatical would-be killers and their hangers-on. Still, not a small army: with terrorist activities and supporters in every country in the Middle East, north Africa, and elsewhere, they are still able to do enormous damage. How to counter their ide9logical influence is a huge task, mainly for Muslims themselves, but not alone.

As for Zionism, of course not all Jews support Zionism and that's how it's been from the beginning. Not even all very devout Orthodox Jews support Zionism. For all that, Israel exists and has the right to exist. If invasion and conquest is okay for Muslims throughout their history, then they can't really complain about any other ethnic group taking back their country. And until that right to exist is recognised, then no progress can really be made on the issue of Palestinian statehood - certainly not while bigger battles are being fought. Why negotiate about anything if people want to push you into the sea ?

As for Christians, I don't know or care much what they believe, it's not only irrelevant but not really any of their business, any more than whether or not 'Hindus support Irish independence'.

So where will the next jihadist atrocity occur, and how many more innocents will be slaughtered, while you obfuscate over ISIS and find excuses for fascism ?

Joe

Joe said;
complain about any other ethnic group taking back their country.

That is the crux of the matter. The Moslems believe that any land
previously occupied by moslems is always moslem land.
That is why they cannot accept that the Jews now occupy the land from
which they were ejected first by the Romans and then later by the Arab moslems after Islam was invented.

Likewise they still claim Spain is moslem land.

Hi Bazz,

Yes I'll agree its all pretty hard to believe, at least when you first come across the info. Maybe part of the reason this is so is because they have gone to some lengths to tell us all that this isn't the case.
You got a few of the numbers wrong, Binney said surveillance is on 4bn people, that 3 thousand analysts have access to it plus the contractors that maintain the systems and that 80% (not all) phone calls in the US are being recorded.
You were also correct when you said they are overloaded, and Binney responded that because of this they aren't really effective at identifying and stopping the real threats.
As an afterthought, Its been said in other articles and interviews that all the terror threats thwarted by the FBI in the US were in fact patsies that the FBI itself set up.

Crazy world we live in.
Thanks for watching the video and being open to an alternative point of view. The point is if they lie about this then what else do they lie about?

Loudmouth, you make a good point in that even if its only a small percentage of radical thinking Islamists then this still equates to a large number of people.

The problem with the whole scenario is that the average Joe is lead to believe that this is all a home-grown uprising related the the Arab Spring, where as in truth a lot of things may be happening just as much by design (by countries, intelligence agencies, globalists, think tanks and other parties) than by accident.

I don't support ISIS, not in any way but I do think the radical Muslims themselves (fools) are just as much victims of or a product of this manipulation of these different interest groups as much as we too are in some ways manipulated into a certain hive-mind way of thinking by our mainstream media and governments positions as well.

It is a crazy world we live in and the truth is sometimes stranger than fiction.