Killing is the order of the day, whether it be strapped to a tree and shot, bombs dropped on your head in some far off distant land, deranged people with religious hang ups etc, of course some are legal and some not, but killing is killing, even I had training legally to kill using a bayonet in some ones stomach or perhaps making it quicker by using my faithful 303 rifle, so quite frankly what is the problem, two men will be disposed of, but killing will continue by Governments in all countries in some shape or form.

Must see. The history of Heroin and how our Govts use it for power and profits. Sibel Edmonds who initiated The Boiling Frogs site joins James Corbett in this revealing insight into this subject. They have to make it illegal to keep prices extremely high. Sibel Edmonds is an ex FBI whistle blower. http://www.boilingfrogspost.com/2011/10/14/the-eyeopener-morbid-addiction-cia-the-drug-trade/

Hi Craig.

This will be a double post as I am off for a few days.

1. Capitol punishment is a deterrent. It definitely stops repeat offenders. I can name three Australian murderers who have murdered again after serving long prison sentences. One had been sentenced to death, but had his sentenced commuted to life in prison and murdered another woman after his release. He chased a woman down a Sydney street and blew her head off with a shotgun in front of an elderly lady who tried to intervene.

2. It may be enormously expensive in the USA, where prsoners languish for 15-30 years, but under the British system, the condemned were hanged within two weeks of sentence. The cost of maximum security prisoners is about $80,000 dollars per prisoner. Bullets cost only 20 cents, and in China, the cost of the bullet is billed to the family.

3. Our justice system uses juries and if you don't like it, it is just too bad. In the USA. it is the juries who recommend the death penalty to the judge, so your claim that members of juries become opponents of the death penalty looks odd to me.

4. Your premise works both ways. In cases where two offenders have been arrested for a capitol offence in the USA and detectives find it near impossible to find enough evidence to convict, it is common for the detectives to offer one offender a deal in which he gets life in prison instead of death if he gives evidence against the other offender, whom the detectives consider to be more dangerous and controlling.

5. I don't buy your premise that states who kill offenders are uncivilised. My premise is that those states too weak to protect their innocents by killing the worst kinds of criminals deserve to become dysfunctional. In many countries without the death penalty, organised criminals routinely kill judges, witnesses, prosecutors and journalists. Such nations are not nice places to live.

6. It gives closure to victims families. I am more concerned with the victims families than the perpetrators families

In the mid sixties, Leonard Keith Lawson was released from prison after abducting and murdering a 15 year old girl. While on parole he raped and murdered 15 year old Mary Jane Bower at Collaroy, in Sydney. With the police looking for him, he entered SCEGGS girls school in Bowral, and attempted to abduct a schoolgirl. In the struggle with a heroic teacher, he fired a sawn off rifle several times, wounding the female teacher and killing 15 year old Wendy Luscombe.

When Gordon Barry Hadlow was released from a Queensland prison after 22 years, for the rape and murder of a six year old girl, Samantha Dorothy Bacon, he then abducted, raped, and murdered a 9 year old girl, Sharon Margaret Hamilton.

Leigh Robinson was sentenced to death for the stabbing murder of 17 year old shop assistant Valerie Dunn on June 8, 1968, in Melbourne. His sentence was commuted to 30 years jail after a mercy plea was accepted by the Victorian State government of the day. Released after 15 years, he continued his war on our society with convictions for rape, sexual assault of two underage girls, breaking and entering, and theft. In 2008, Robinson murdered Tracey Greenbury, 32, after having an argument with her, and chasing the terrified woman down a street with a shotgun, before literally blowing most of her head off in front of an elderly female neighbour.

Only last year, a convicted murderer of a teenaged girl escaped from prison in Western Australia and murdered another young woman. I forgot to get the names and details of that case.

Had these four child rapist murderers been executed, five young women would still be alive today. The attitude of the anti death penalty brigade is curious. The lives of the worst kinds of criminals are sacrosanct. Only the lives of the innocent are expendable. Capital punishment definitely stops repeat offenders

Here are a few condemned offenders you should cry over, Craig.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OpzTJuIDYtw Oba Chandler was executed for a crime which beggared belief. He befriended a mother with two teenaged daughters who were on vacation in Miami, and invited them for a ride in his boat. He took with him a gun and three heavy blocks of concrete with ropes attached. After taking the women to sea, he produced a gun and bound them. He raped the mother and threw her overboard with the rope around her neck attached to the concrete. He then raped a 17 year old and threw her overboard with the rope around her neck. Then the 14 year old got the same treatment. Even Oba Chandlers daughter was glad he was executed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YYX_nNpVwqg This gang of four charmers killed no less than eight people during a string of armed robberies in the USA.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bkDcV7Gwq3M These two offenders made a specialty of abducting teenage girls from the street. The five girls they abducted were raped and tortured to death slowly.

My favourite candidate for execution is that sub human (William Mitchell) in Greenough, Western Australia who entered a family home (Greenough Family Massacre) early one morning after axing to death a 15 year old boy (Daniel McKenzie) (who had walked outside to greet whoever it was who had entered the family driveway. He then entered the boy’s mothers bedroom (31 year old Karen McKenzie) and axed the sleeping mother to death in her bed, then raped her. He then entered the room of a 7 year old girl (Amara McKenzie),and axed her to death. (Other details of her death were suppressed by the coroner.) He then entered the room of a 5 year old girl, (Katrina McKenzie) and axed her to death also. (Other details about her death were suppressed by the coroner.) You want this bastard to escape from prison and do it again to your kids, Craig?

Must see. The history of how our Govts use drugs for profit and wars.http://www.boilingfrogspost.com/2011/10/14/the-eyeopener-morbid-addiction-cia-the-drug-trade/