LEGO,

Low intelligence isn't what gets people admitted to psychiatric wards!

Do you think the idiocy that you (and Tony Abbott) display extrapolating statistics by assuming trends will continue at the same rate (rather than looking at the reasons for those trends) is genetic? I certainly don't!

In 1965 unemployment benefits did not exist. Now they do, but the proportion of people on them is much LESS than it was 25 years ago.
In 1965 people didn't live long after retiring. Now they do, but we have a superannuation scheme to limit its cost to the nation.
Family payments have been introduced by governments, but are unlikely to increase much.
And with medical improvements, and the NDIS removing barriers to getting disabled people into work, it's likely DSP payments will fall in future.

Greece, Spain, Cyprus and Ireland have limited credit because they're in the Eurozone and don't own the ECB. Australia owns the RBA, therefore has unlimited credit in Australian dollars. And since the 1990s the Australian government has maintained a policy of not borrowing in currencies other than Australian dollars, so is immune from national insolvency problems.

And although people with low intelligence are more likely than average to be unproductive, that does not mean that most of them are unproductive.

Interesting article, in addition to the fact that this is not about left vs right, although it's portrayed this way:

1. The eugenics movement in it extreme form was not used by the Nazi's alone, much eugenics research and practice actually emanated from the USA http://historynewsnetwork.org/article/1796 'The horrifying American roots of Nazi eugenics'.
2. The Rockefeller Foundation had been funding the Kaiser Wilhelm Institute in Germany till official declaration of war between Germany and the USA, according to Lia Weintraub in a research paper at Tufts University http://tinyurl.com/o4t7oqk
3. Post WWII 'Why the population bomb is a Rockefeller baby' http://tinyurl.com/373t2oq and Paul Ehrlich's role.
4. How is eugenics manifested in the noughties? From the Anti-Defamation League 'Ties between anti-immigration and eugenics' http://tinyurl.com/l3b638z

According to a close collaborator of Ehrlich's, John Tanton from SPLC article titled 'John Tanton and the Nativist Movement':

'Do we leave it to individuals to decide that they are the intelligent ones who should have more kids? And more troublesome, what about the less intelligent, who logically should have less? Who is going to break the bad news [to less intelligent individuals], and how will it be implemented?" http://tinyurl.com/5tm4eeg

Of course Tanton is linked to various 'environmentalists', centre left politicians, media and sustainable population movement in Australia, with several contributing to his journal The Social Contract Press, a very extreme version of Quadrant, with TSCP described by the SPLC as:

'The Social Contract Press (TSCP) routinely publishes race-baiting articles penned by white nationalists. The press is a program of U.S. Inc, the foundation created by John Tanton, the racist founder and principal ideologue of the modern nativist movement. TSCP puts an academic veneer of legitimacy over what are essentially racist arguments about the inferiority of today's immigrants.' http://tinyurl.com/3w83ykc

TSCP link is here with sample article featuring Australian 'demographer' and 'immigration expert' Bob Birrell titled 'Australia's cultural identity' http://tinyurl.com/kvmtawm

I think the point of the article in The Oz, with comments open, was to allow those with 'white nativists' sympathies to let off steam.... and also creating some confusion....

Whether you agree with him or not, where is the evidence that Gary Johns' concerns relate at all to eugenics? He could just as easily be concerned about inadequate parenting by uneducated single mothers of large, poor families on welfare.

Andras Smith is astroturfing and trying to hijack the thread. He has a job in the immigration industry, as an "education consultant" concerned with bringing foreign students to Australia with the lure of permanent residence. Because most of our population growth is from immigration and the rest is simply due to temporary demographic momentum, stabilising the population would mean cutting back on immigration, with negative consequences to Andras Smith's income. He therefore has a motive for smearing anyone who advocates such as course of action as a racist, eugenicist, or whatever boo word comes to mind. The Southern Poverty Law Center, which he quotes as a source, is notorious for trying to discredit and silence political opponents by smearing them as racists or "haters"

http://harpers.org/blog/2010/03/hate-immigration-and-the-southern-poverty-law-center/

Sustainable Population Australia is only concerned about numbers on environmental and quality of life grounds. It doesn't advocate any racist or eugenicist policies. If you follow the link to Bob Birrell's article, it is about Australian content in the media -- nothing at all to do with race or eugenics. Andras is counting on most people not bothering and just assuming that it is some racist rant.

I don't know if the Social Contract Press has published any articles by white nationalists, but by Andras' reasoning, Andras himself is a racist, too, because he publishes comments on Online Opinion, which also publishes comments by self-avowed racists and white nationalists.

"The author is right."

Posted by Suseonline, Saturday, 17 January 2015 11:56:56 AM

Politically: clearly.

@ Divergence

If The Social Contract Press TSCP contributors have naively been taken in by a white nativist anti-immigration magazine masquerading as an immigration, identity and social research journal, it does not say much about their own education and analytical skills (especially when other contributors are or have been highlghted in US media for their interesting views on minorities etc.)?

Like Ehrlich et al, most are very careful about what they write publicly including Birrell, but appears ambiguous (never +ve about 'other types'), and can then be transmitted on by fellow traveller journalists to reach their niche constituencies.....

It's no coincidence the same writers or contributors end up being reposted on right wing (that's being polite) websites, forums etc.., presumably without their consent, but importantly the negative memes and philosophy are being transmitted.

Curiously, some of the same TSCP contributors such as US 'white nationalists' are banned from the EU/Schengen Zone (for inciting hatred, sympathising with Nazis etc.), but are free to visit Australia and attend 'events' e.g. Jared Taylor of American Renaissance, who can use mainstream media sources from Oz to make his point, via articles inspired by Bob Birrell:

http://www.amren.com/features/2012/09/report-from-australia/

Immigration kills Australian culture according to Bob Birrell from NewsCorp:

http://www.amren.com/news/2010/03/mass_immigratio_1/

Migration Rort Crackdown needed according to Bob Birrell from Fairfax Investigations (really?)

http://tinyurl.com/pr8wnxj

I have no issue with Birrell personally, like other academics he is merely giving our laidback and culturally specific media, politicians and society the information they need to make conclusions about immigrants etc.