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Rekindling the true spirit of Christmas via beaches, mountain summits, Byron Bay and Bethlehem : Comments

By Kay Stroud, published 19/12/2014

Jesus went by himself or with his disciples 'into a mountain' to pray, to meditate on God's spiritual idea, man and the universe.

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oh dear.......

Next will be the explanation that thunder really is the gods being angry.

and queue runner......
Posted by Cobber the hound, Friday, 19 December 2014 8:47:36 AM
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No, next comes Johan Wolfgang Goethe with his

“True, human beings may abound
Who growl at things beyond their ken,
Mocking the beautiful and good,
And all they haven't understood ...”
Posted by George, Friday, 19 December 2014 9:13:36 AM
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Credible archaeological evidence is putting the story of Moses and the Exodus well and truly to bed!

So, if there were no exodus, there was no trip up into the mountains, no burning bush and no invisible hand carving words into stone tablets for a nation of illiterates, who could neither read nor write; but, were very good story tellers!

And we also have another work of apparent fiction, (the greatest story ever told) that produces a super human man, with powers to heal the sick instantaneously, make the blind see, raise the dead, walk on water and feed literal hundreds from a single hand carried basket of bread and fish!

A story not granted more credibility by the plagiarism that so marks it, nor the complete lack of credible eyewitness accounts, but rather relies on he said that she said hearsay, on hearsay!

I'm not saying it isn't true or doesn't contain an element of seriously embellished truth; just that it's not proven, even by the conveniently located dead sea scrolls!?

For me, the true message of Christmas, and has been so for over a decade now; is to be unwanted, unwelcome alone and forgotten!

Just because people were baptized in some archaic ceremony, just doesn't make them Christians; let alone just decent caring humans!

A man down on his luck divorced, homeless and bankrupt, with nothing left but what he stands in, is stuck by a speeding car and knocked into the gutter!
Laying there unable to move with his neck badly broken, he looks skyward and feebly inquires, Lord, Lord, why hast thou forsaken me?
When and to his astonished surprise, a big voices booms out of the sky and says, "Joe Brown, some days you really hiss me right off"!

A Russian version has the man not yet stuck by a speeding vehicle, asking why oh why hasn't he won the state lottery, when the same voice booms, " go buy a ticket"!
Rhrosty.
Posted by Rhrosty, Friday, 19 December 2014 11:03:53 AM
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Interesting article. Can you tell me where these universal principles are echoed in other religions?

"Jesus' view of reality as only spiritual". Pardon? Where does he state this? If this was the case why did He bother to come in human form?
Posted by Dashton, Friday, 19 December 2014 3:31:03 PM
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strange to see how a woman in Canada who stopped her car in order to save a few ducks has been gaoled for causing the death of a couple of motor cyclist. No doubt makes no sense to evolutionist who see the ducks as being equal (albeit less evolved) than the ducks.

'Jesus' view of reality as only spiritual and based in divine Love, or heaven already on earth, couldn't help but revolutionise.'

Please Kay do a little Scripture reading. This gnostic nonsense is just old dressed up heresy. You are a real person and if not who am I addressing.
Posted by runner, Friday, 19 December 2014 6:56:43 PM
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'It could also be argued that no great discovery or innovation made in human history has been made without considerable "thinking time"'

Well, it could, but that would require evidence, and you don't DO that, so there's not much point bringing it up really, is there?
Posted by Jon J, Monday, 22 December 2014 5:17:44 AM
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