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Climate pledge is hot air : Comments

By Keith DeLacy, published 20/11/2014

The Chinese president agreed to do nothing, and the US president to do nothing of which he was capable.

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Hi Rhrosty,

I often enjoy your offerings on this site, but I think here you are being a little too optimistic about Obama's chances of doing anything over the next two years. What I would recommend is that you (and the media) study the US Constitution a little more closely.

You think that Obama can make a treaty? Only with the advice and consent of the Senate, and now the Republicans have a majority there.

The President can't dismiss the Congress, but the Congress can dismiss the President, by impeaching him. It's never been done, but there have been a few close calls.

If Obama vetoes a bill from Congress, the veto can be overridden by Congress, as has been done with lame duck presidents many times. Admittedly, it requires a two-thirds majority, but the Republicans aren't too far away from that.

The best gauge of Congress' opinion on climate change came when they rejected ratification of the Kyoto treaty by 95 to nil.

Actually, I think that Congress will be very cagey with Obama, and content themselves with inundating him with bills to veto.

I should be real fun in the 2016 presidential election, with the best possible candidates being Hilary Clinton versus Monica Lewinsky.

I am surprised that you deprecate the powers of our Governor-General, who has a power that Obama cannot dream of, which is that at any time he can dismiss the Prime Minister and issue writs for a general election for the House of Representatives. This means we cannot have the government shutdowns that can occur in the US, and Kerr's dismissal is what made me an enthusiastic monarchist.

My only change would be to re-name the Governor General and call him the Prime Ministerial Pisser-Offer in Chief.
Posted by plerdsus, Friday, 21 November 2014 11:14:31 AM
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"The Clinton administration in 1998 did not submit the Kyoto Protocol to the Senate for ratification (a position supported by a 95 to nil vote in the Senate) but vice-president Al Gore committed hand-on-heart to a 7 per cent ­reduction by 2008-12. US emissions increased by 9 per cent over this period."

Not true CO2 emissions in the US actually fell by 9.10% from 5936.9 million metric tonnes in 2008 to 5383.2 MMt in 2012

The chart below gives the correct figures
since 1998 to year emissions in the US rose or fell as below.

Gas______________2008_____2009____2010____2011____2012
Carbon dioxide____+3.70%___-3.77%___-0.04%__-2.26%___-5.78%
Methane__________0.09%___-1.49%___-3.32%__-4.61%___-6.49%
Nitrous oxide______+2.30%___-0.37%__-1.13%___+0.84%__-0.93%

Data from here
http://www.epa.gov/climatechange/ghgemissions/inventoryexplorer/#allsectors/allgas/gas/all

It does not say much for the author that he comes that he has got his numbers the wrong way round.
Posted by warmair, Friday, 21 November 2014 1:05:19 PM
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In 2010 at Copenhagen China was gifted the CO2 turbine generator, a new form of turbine to replace the steam turbine.

In short the advantages for the same +600*C heat that steam requires to produce 350 megawatts CO2 does at a heat of +50*C.

However if the CO2 heat is increased to +100* the number of turbines jumps to fifty.

China now produces 100,000 of the lower heat +20*C turbine producing 10KW though it has a 1KW electric compressor back up.

Australia though has taken the position of retaining the steam turbine and its need of coal burn to acquire the heat needed for steam.

The technology which largely copies the absorption fridge principals may be used with both vertical and horizontal shaft.
Posted by DaS Energy, Saturday, 22 November 2014 1:54:36 PM
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It is typical of lame duck presidents to make grandiloquent speeches that sound fantastic, but mean nothing. BO did just that.
Posted by Shadow Minister, Tuesday, 25 November 2014 2:46:31 PM
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