One can only hope so, given current verbal agreements on all sides, seem hardly worth the paper they'rewritten on.
Personally, I think we'd likely have a better chance of finally getting the long touted two state solution done, if we made a deal with the devil; as opposed to getting Netenyama, to actually honor any such agreement!?
Q: Why do Jews always answer a question with a question?
A: What do you mean? Or, why shouldn't we?
All levity aside, I think there's a better chance of getting a deal finally done, if the commercial boycotts not only remain but are universally extended, well beyond the M.E, and into all of Europe and America!
Rhrosty.

Given that Obama, aided by a conga-line of Australian politicians, has enabled the Israelis to virtually occupy what little is left of Palestine and has thwarted every move by the Palestinians to end the occupation, I don't think Singer's bleating is going to fall on receptive ears.

The two Empires of Evil, the U.S. and Israel, have played merry hell with the Middle East and the lives of the Palestinians over decades. War crimes have been carried out with obscene regularity along with genocide. The most recent massacre cost more than 2,000 Palestinians lives and saw the almost complete destruction of the Gaza Strip.

Singer, you are a Judas. Your continual white-washing of Israel is pathetic given its war-crimes and yet still you claim that promises must be kept.

Israel has never kept any of its promises, much like the Americans did with the Native Indians!

Have you no shame, man?

More childishness from Singer. Little busy to give this my full attention but I will offer here Johnson's full quote rather than the selective tosh put forward in the article;

"We are not the ones to say where other nations should draw lines between them that will assure each the greatest security. It is clear, however, that a return to the situation of 4 June 1967 will not bring peace. There must be secure and there must be recognized borders. Some such lines must be agreed to by the neighbors involved."

#SteeleRedux

Nice to see you are directly addressing something in my article.

Problem is that the PLO and Hamas have ignored Johnson's advice since it was issued by the President on 10 September 1968 - by demanding Israel withdraw from every inch of territory of the Land of Israel liberated by it in the 1967 Six Day War.

This rejectionism of course also spits in the face of Security Council Resolution 242 and has been a major factor in Oslo and the Roadmap facing the shredder.

Until Abbas and Haniyeh accept the advice proffered by so many American Presidents and the Security Council since 1967 - any hope of two independent Arab states being created in former Mandatory Palestine is a pipe dream.

Thanks for putting up Johnson's quote in full - which leads to a further comment.

Note that in 1968 Johnson was not talking about the "Palestinians" - only about Israel's "neighbours involved" agreeing to where the secure and recognized boundaries would be located.

Those "neighbours involved" were then Jordanians and held Jordanian passports and had done so for the previous 18 years - and they held on to such citizenship and passports until 1988.

Would the world fall in if some deal was done that restored those neighbours involved their Jordanian citizenship and the reissue of their passports by Jordan to those neighbours?

Note too that no President before Obama mentioned the idea of "land swaps".

I doubt that such a concept will get any oxygen whilst Islamic State is doing its best to wipe Iraq and Syria from world atlases.

Israel.
The worst terrorist state in the world.
Bar none.

Hi David,
I've read numerous articles from you since joining OLO a few months back and have always refrained from offering my opinion. The problem is that I don't know where to start.

Firstly, I want to quickly add my comments to the current article.
You say that past promises made by Bush were overwhelmingly supported by both houses of congress. I think that Bush was one of the most disliked presidents ever so it goes without saying that the US citizens (who are the real representatives of the US) probably didnt think much of his choices and they believed his choices didnt represent their own.
Next I want to ask why both houses of congress support Israel?
Why is it that even in this country both Labour and Liberal also support Israel?
If one bothers to take a look at the overwhelming number of documents and articles and proposed new laws that US senators advocate daily that are pro-Israel as well as their Israeli business and banking relationships and often Jewish family heritage, one wonders whether these past decisions really represent the views of the US people themselves.
Next I want to remind you that Bush isnt president anymore and the current democratically elected leader of the US people is Obama. Whether you like him or not or agree with the things he does, has the authority to determine what he thinks is right for the citizens of his country.

Honestly speaking there is plenty of things I could say to criticise Obama.

But all I can think of right now is that you are actively trying to undermine his leadership and the decisions he makes for his nation.

You care not about whether or not his decisions are generally representative of his people, but only care about what benefits Israel.

Also David, I want you to know that I am going to hold back my questions about whether Israel truly has a right to exist (on another people's land) for now. As well as so many other Jewish related questions, such the creation of the USSR, funded by Jacob Schiff, put into effect by Trotsky, and run by Jewish Bolsheviks. I will not mention the tortures committed upon Gentiles and Aryans, and Poles by the Cheka and NKVD, far worse than anything that you allege Hitler did. I could mention some of these instances but its truly sickening stuff and makes Hitler look like an absolute saint. Or even how Kaiser Wilhelm was himself manipulated by Jews into starting WWI. I could even go back further to Oliver Cromwell and his pro-Jewish interests. I won't question why there was no Zyclon B residue in the alleged gas chambers or that the number of Jews killed there is questioned. I won't mention the Holodomor in the Ukraine nor about Jewish involvement in Communism in China under Mao or summarize the total numbers of deaths altogether, nor will I mention that Palestine was previously under control of the British, who had been taken over by (Jewish) freemasons and bankers. I wont even mention Palestine or the New World Order, and Western Imperialism by way of the World Bank and the IMF. But I will say that before I ever take your concerns seriously, you will have to answer these other questions of mine at some point. These and so many other questions I have not yet even mentioned will form a basis as to whether I (and many others I assume) think Israel deserves any respect or compassion. And how do we know that the game Zionists play isn't a bigger game of deception anyway?

#Armchair Critic

When you question whether Israel has a right to exist - you ignore the legally binding decisions of the League of Nations and the United Nations over the last 94 years that totally reject your disgusting stance.

The Congress will hopefully ensure Obama honors the commitments made by Bush and the then Congress in 2004 to Israel because that is the legal and moral thing to do.

Honoring agreements that are legally binding is obviously irrelevant to you.

You have made your Jew-hatred abundantly clear - and like so many others - choose to do so anonymously.

I do not intend to respond to your vile invective.

Your home is with Hamas, the PLO, Islamic Jihad, Hezbollah and Islamic State. Go visit their associated web sites and share in their Jew-hatred where you will be welcomed with open arms.

You are not welcome here.

Hello David,

I never said that Israel doesnt have a right to exist.
I simply said I question it.

Lets say indigenous Australians turned around tomorrow and said we were here for 40,000yrs before white man came and we want you all out.

Would they have a valid argument that everyone white person in Australia should leave or live in walled in areas under their control?

And what say if non-indigenous Australians had a problem with being forced to leave or live in walled in communities with check points and became enraged and it started into a civil war.

Would non-indigenous Australians be labelled 'terrorists' for defending themselves?

You mentioned the UN.
Well even they have recognized Palestine yet still you build more settlements.

And let me tell you something - Its not anti-Semitic if its true.

For the record, I don't support the PLO, Islamic Jihad, Hezbollah or the Islamic State.
I support the right to live in peace. Liberty, Freedom and Equality for all peoples.
If I've become a little harsh its because I saw a video of Jewish people sitting a top a hill overlooking Gaza drinking, clapping and cheering every time a bomb dropped on Gaza. So I treat the issue in the same way as I do the Islamic State, with a degree of mistrust because I am not exactly sure what type of people you are.

I support individualism, the right to think, say and question whatever I choose, as long as I do so respectfully.
And maybe I overstepped that mark a little the way I came across but when you are constantly trying to garner support for your point of view, I too have the right to voice mine.

You say I'm not welcome here.
The only person who has the right to even suggest that is an indigenous Australian, and I'm sorry but I'm not sure you fit that profile.

My family dates back to the Third Fleet in this country.
They were Light-horsemen and Infantry putting their lives on the line fighting for this country in WWI, a war that Jews/Zionists had a hand in starting. They were in the Navy and Army in WWII another war Jews/Zionists had a hand in starting.
Both sides of my family.

So don't you dare tell me I don't have a right to be here.

I have every right to have my own thoughts, opinions and questions.

- And that's what I was doing - Questioning things and giving you the opportunity to explain why Israel deserves compassion, given the wars in the world, meddling in other countries politics with your lobby groups, and Israels own track record of human rights abuses.
And now you have just got me started.

So tell me where would you like me to start?

Communism?

Karl Marx (born Levi) and another Jew, Friedreich Engels, issued "The Communist Manifesto" in 1848 in London. Marx was descended from a long line of famous Rabbis who were so-called "Talmudic scholars." This is the source from which his communist philosophy springs. The Talmud preaches that members of the Jewish race are superior to all other races. It says that the Jews rightfully own all the wealth of the Gentiles and should dominate them. Soviet Russia - Lenin and Stalin, The Cheka and NKVD; Mao Zedong of China, and I could probably find more. Israel is quick to remind everyone about the Holocaust, but they don't mention the Holodomor. Should I talk about the crimes of the Cheka and NKVD; maybe I should mention the Murder Room in Kiev?

Religion?
Does the Talmud not teach that Jesus was the bastard son of a Roman soldier and that Mary was a prostitute?

Hitler?
I'm wont advocate the murdering of Jews.
I wont advocate the murdering of anyone, like I said I believe in Liberty for all, including Jews.
But just quickly Hitler developed "The Final Solution".
So one can only assume there was a "Jewish Problem".
Why is it that Jews were historically expelled from between 79 to 109 nations, some more than once?
Tell me, did Auschwitz not have: Hospital (including dental); Library; Theaters; Sculpture Class; Art Class; University with lectures on every topic; Cinema; Religious Facilities for all denominations; Swimming Pool; Sauna; Soccer Field; Fencing Classes; Up to 16 Orchestras; a Brothel and even a complaints office for inmates? Is it not true that inmates were paid, could be married and even had access to the Camp Post office?
Does that sound like a Death Camp to you?
Where is the Zyclon B residue on the walls of the so called gas chambers?
If 6million Jews supposedly died in WWII, how is it that the 1934 World Encyclopedia stated that the Jewish population in Europe was only 3.5 million?

Politics?
What about Israels use of lobby groups (we remember what Bob Carr said not too long ago), and control of money supply to influence politics?
Isn't terrorism defined as violence to achieve political gain?
And isn't that what the US (and Israel by proxy) have done overthrowing at least 60 democratically elected leaders of nations since WWII?
It certainly was if you include the attack on the USS Liberty and the Gulf of Tonkin incident.

Immigration?
Lets talk about Immigration. - Or destroying countries Nationalism.
Here are the Names of the Jews Behind the US Open Immigration Law of 1965:
1. Senator Jacob Javits (NY)
2. Congressman Emanuel Celler (NY)
3. Leo Pfeffer (Former President of the American Jewish Congress (AJC)
4. Norman Podhoretz (Writer and Member of the Council on Foreign Relations – which is 75% Jewish)
Senator Jacob Javits played a prominent role in the Senate hearings on the 1965 bill.
Javits authored an article entitled ‘Let’s open the gates’ that proposed immigration levels of 500,000 per year for 20 years with no restrictions on national origin.
Congressman Emanuel Celler, who fought for unrestricted immigration for over 40 years in the House of Representatives, introduced similar legislation resulting in the ‘Celler-Hart Immigration Bill,’ the precursor to the fatal bill of 1965.

African Slave Trade?
That 2% of whites owned slaves, 23% of freed slaves owned slaves, and that 40% of Jews owned slaves?

Mafia?
Maybe you want to talk about the Mafia in the US was it not all Italian but a mainly Jewish run Mafia?

#Armchair Critic

I repeat what I said to your previous two posts which you have now unequivocally confirmed by your two latest posts:

"You have made your Jew-hatred abundantly clear - and like so many others - choose to do so anonymously.

I do not intend to respond to your vile invective.

Your home is with Hamas, the PLO, Islamic Jihad, Hezbollah and Islamic State. Go visit their associated web sites and share in their Jew-hatred where you will be welcomed with open arms.

You are not welcome here."

Treatment of the Palestinians?
Maybe you want to discuss attacking Gaza with white phosphorus and the deliberate targeting of women and children?
Or that it seems that 65yrs after the creation of Israel your continued building of settlements shows you have no interest in a 2 state solution and are destroying any chance for a Palestinian State?

ISIS?
Maybe we could discuss that Ed Snowden said that ISIS Leader Abu Bakr Al Baghdadi Was Trained by the Israeli Mossad. In relation to the "Hornet's Nest" he stated that “The only solution for the protection of the Jewish state is to create an enemy near its borders.” Maybe we could consider that there may be some truth to these revelations.
Given that the blatent aggression on the Arabs played out on Al Jazeera are intended to only further enrage the Arab people and push Israel closer to a situation where it can justifiably launch a big war (by saying that if Israel does not launch a pre-emptive strive that the Jews will all be slaughtered with the outcome of fulfiling biblical prophecy) whilst at the same time not seeming to be the aggressor?

Nuclear Capabilities?
That you do not believe you have any obligation to join the Non-Proliferation Treaty

Mossad Forging Australian Passports?
Posing as Art students or sellers, and this also relates to 911.

Protocols of Zion?
Yes, that's said to be fake but some of the criticisms do ring true.
Do they not?

12 Kingdoms of the New World Order?
And how Australia is combined in a block with Israel?

Look I could go on and on.
I'm not being racist or anti-Semitic, like I said its not anti-Semitic if it's true, right? I'm simply questioning what you people really stand for. If any of the things I've mentioned aren't true, or that I've taken things I've learned out of context, then I would sincerely hope that you set me straight, and welcome your response, but doubt you will enter into a constructive discussion ON THESE TOPICS.

And furthermore,
I just mentioned some historical information that supports the question "Why does Israel deserve compassion?"
Plenty of other people have made worse comments about Israel on this forum, but I don't see you abusing them. It seems to me that I'm being singled out simply because I raise more damaging criticism of Israel, not because my behavior is inherently worse than others.
Really, Why should you feel insulted by things that the Jewish people have done?
It's myself and the rest of human civilization that should feel insulted.
I haven't been purposely insulting over and above stating facts.
It was you that was purposely insulting to me, by saying "I am not welcome here." And attempting to frame me as an anti-Semite and a terrorist.

I most certainly do find that behavior offensive.
I assert that I have more right to be here than you, because your stance is biased.

You want criticism if it is supports your own stance, but derile it (and imply racist and terrorist) and avoid the discussion altogether if it does not fit your narrative.

I'm truly sorry to you and any other Jewish person if you find my comments invective, it wasn't meant that way. I want you to believe me when I say that if I had truly meant to put it across in a way that was meant to be abusive or insulting then you would surely know about it.

All the information I've put forward is freely available on the internet (I invite anyone to look and find the information for themselves, or I can find the information for them and post links to it) so you can't accuse me of anything simply because I choose to look deeper into issues and then seek to raise questions.

I left out the part where Jews aren't supposed to marry outside of their religion in order to keep the bloodlines intact...
While promoting immigration in other nations...

And why is BDS unfair given that Israel does not seek peace with its neighbours?

Why is it that if the German people have to pay reparations to Israel, that the Jewish people not pay reparations to Russia for overthrowing their leaders and bringing in communism or make reparations to African Americans for the profiteering of slavery?

ISRAEL in every sense of the world equals HYPOCRISY.

I don't have to be an anti-Semite or terrorist as you suggested to see things realistically.
And you would willingly try to portray me that way to avoid criticism, open discussion or taking responsibility.

#Armchair Critic

I repeat what I said to your previous two posts which you have now unequivocally confirmed by your three latest posts:

"You have made your Jew-hatred abundantly clear - and like so many others - choose to do so anonymously.

I do not intend to respond to your vile invective.

Your home is with Hamas, the PLO, Islamic Jihad, Hezbollah and Islamic State. Go visit their associated web sites and share in their Jew-hatred where you will be welcomed with open arms.

You are not welcome here."

Ahh... Pathetic.

I'm not going to lower myself to your level and since you aren't capable of having a reasonable discussion anyway then don't waste my time.

I won't entertain name calling or stereotyping someone a certain way just to cover up my inability to have a constructive well rounded discussion with others.

Just remember I'm not the one consistently writing articles to try to win the hearts an minds of the people of another country with biased one-sided arguments.

#Armchair Critic

I repeat what I said to your previous five posts which you have now unequivocally confirmed by your latest post:

"You have made your Jew-hatred abundantly clear - and like so many others - choose to do so anonymously.

I do not intend to respond to your vile invective.

Your home is with Hamas, the PLO, Islamic Jihad, Hezbollah and Islamic State. Go visit their associated web sites and share in their Jew-hatred where you will be welcomed with open arms.

You are not welcome here."

I noticed you're "calling for sovereignty of the West Bank and Gaza to be allocated between Israel and Jordan as the two successor States to the Mandate for Palestine."

So you're saying that Palestine should not exist at all?

You also mention in other comments that 4/5th's of Jordon was supposed to be the home of the Jewish people.
I note that you have on several occasions raised the issue of keeping the agreements from the League of Nations..
Are you suggesting Israel take that land at some point as well?

It falls into a scenario where Israel might start a big war
(by creating an external enemy ISIS and acting out of so-called defense)
to take over the ME and become the next ruling state in the world.
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/182751#.VIUSC8mvPmV
This news story tells a story that ISIS do intend to attack you at some point, but are going to destabilise the region first.
I see a possible scenario developing here based on videos I've watched.
http://youtu.be/DeQ_wfUBjws
http://moroccantimes.com/2014/07/nsa-documents-reveal-isis-leaderabu-bakr-al-baghdadi-trained-israeli-mossad/

Biblical references say that the land of Israel includes that land so what are you actually suggesting?

Also you falsely accuse and mistake criticism for Jew-hatred and fail to enter into a reasonable discussion about Israels recent history.
Don't you understand that behavior will only make people dislike or mistrust Israel more?

Instead of lobbying for the needs of your nation why don't you advocate something worthwhile?
Like the sex slave trade of women from other countries and the forced labour that goes on in Israel, some of whom may be Africans?
White people are still paying the price of guilt and resentment by African Americans, yet it's possible that Israel still keeps them as slaves.

At what point is anything I've said untrue?
Your failure to set me straight only makes me feel as though there is a real basis to all the criticisms of Israel I've listed.
And also, you say you won't respond, but you still do everytime.
Does this have something to do Kol Nidre, and renouncing any pledges, oaths and vows you make?
Now I'm done.

#Armchair Critic

Glad you are at last prepared to discuss what I write about and not use your posts to spread your Jew-hating invective - which I do not and will not dignify with a response.

"Palestine" was a geographic entity established by the San Remo Conference and the Treaty of Sevres in 1920 and the Mandate for Palestine in 1922 with internationally recognized boundaries for the first time ever in recorded history.

It ceased to exist in two stages:

1. In 1946 - when Transjordan - 76.9% of the Mandate for Palestine -gained its independence from Great Britain

2. In 1948 - when Britain handed back its administration of the remaining 23.1% to the League of Nations, Israel declared its independence and six Arab armies immediately invaded the newly declared Jewish State. Jordan occupied the West Bank and East Jerusalem - and Egypt occupied the Gaza Strip - from 1948-1967.

At the moment there are two states in former Mandatory Palestine - Israel and Jordan. Israel is sovereign in 17% and Jordan in 77%. The remaining 6% comprises the West Bank and Gaza.

Jordan was originally designated as part of the territory within which the Jewish National Home could be reconstituted - but that right was taken away in 1922.

Mandatory Palestine (including Transjordan) comprised 0.01% of the Ottoman territories held by the Ottoman Empire for 400 years prior to being conquered in World War 1. The remaining 99.99% of the conquered territories was set aside for Arab self-determination.

Attempts to create a second Arab state - in addition to Jordan - in former mandatory Palestine failed in 1937, 1947, 1993-2013 and could have occurred with the stroke of an Arab League pen between 1948-1967.

The Oslo and Bush Roadmap "two-state solution" is in my opinion dead and buried.

Allocation of sovereignty in the West Bank between Israel and Jordan now remains the only possible peaceful solution.

I do write on other issues - e.g Islamic State, the horrific situation in Syria over the past three years. You will find those articles on OLO.

Thanks for your civil response and also for presenting some interesting facts and for your insight and opinion.

Please understand that I don't hate Jews.
I believe all peoples have the right to exist in peace and without persecution, the Jewish people included.
And I'm not so much interested in things that happened in the past as much as I wonder where the world is headed now.
Just because I bring up aspects of the past doesn't purposely mean I am trying to vilify or single out anyone.
All peoples of the world have aspects of history they aren't proud of.
I just wish everybody could find their place in the world (or put their cards on the table for their honest future aspirations) and get along, and a world free of coercion, manipulation, greed and deceit.
- But that doesn't mean I want communism either.

My general interest is geopolitical issues in relation to a possible future global government, not of hating any single people.
If this happens I just hope that all peoples are represented fairly and that its a future we can all embrace, and not a future where a small minority control it and the rest are treated like they aren't as important, and I like to take in all sides of the story fairly.
I hope for a future where everyone can get along and rules and rights are the same for everyone, it just seems these days we're still in a world where some people are treated better than others, where some countries are treated better than others, and where at times corporations and ideals or greed, money and wars are more important than people themselves.

I want technology to empower us, not imprison us.
And I'm not racist but I'm not that keen on multiculturalism either.
It causes conflict between people.
Good day to you.