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The rights of children must come first in international surrogacy : Comments

By Helen Freris, published 10/10/2014

The recent case of Baby Gammy has drawn attention to the ethical pitfalls posed by international surrogacy.

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A social workers facile call for more social workers, hmmm.

The whole article is predicated on the idea of "rights" but it turns out that the only people with rights are social workers - the right to tell everyone else what to do on the flimsiest of pretexts.

An adopted child who wants no contact with his natural parents, might feel a sense of social completeness on knowing that his adopted parents had been forced to keep records of his natural parents, which he never uses or intends to use.

So what?

What kind of reason is that for imposing on people who want to adopt a child born by way of surrogacy, a whole thornbush of regulations, that just happen
a) to have nothing to do with achieving the end as given, and
b) to require the employment of a great slew of social workers.

Underlying the author's article is that idea that people have no rights but what the state says they have, and anything that the state says is a right, is a right.

Get this Helen. You are not God. Other people are not your property. You don't speak from a position of presumptive moral superiority. Parenthood is a right. People don't have to ask your permission, or anyone else's permission to make babies. People have a right to be free of your violent interference. People have a right to do what they want so long as they are not aggressing against or defrauding others. You are advocating both aggression and fraud against others: aggression by way of enforcement and fraud by way of your false pretences.

You need to learn to mind your own business, stop thinking of yourself as better and as knowing better than others, and stop interfering in other people's intimate lives.

If only one person is not born as a result of the violence-based meddling you are proposing, we all have a "right" for you to shut up.
Posted by Jardine K. Jardine, Friday, 10 October 2014 9:20:10 AM
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The author writes "...it is important not to view children born through surrogacy merely as the outcomes of contractual arrangements, created by technology and transnational labour in exchange for remuneration."
How else to view this practice, this ultimate in outsourcing. Can't make a baby? Too easy! Go to a poor country and pay a poor woman to make one for you.
Humans as cattle, as brood mares. How enlightened is that?! And how long will it be before we read that a particular outcome of one of these contractual arrangements has been tweaked to have cobalt blue eyes and the strength of three men?
Or why have drugs in sport when it will soon be possible to grow tomorrow's champions in someone else's womb?
I would like to see this immoral practice regulated into oblivion.
Posted by halduell, Friday, 10 October 2014 9:53:22 AM
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Yes, no question!
Rhrosty.
Posted by Rhrosty, Friday, 10 October 2014 12:24:25 PM
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Can children really require the services of social workers BEFORE they are conceived. Surely that is beyond the scope even of bureaucrats.
Posted by Hasbeen, Friday, 10 October 2014 5:27:03 PM
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being denied a father and mother violates the natural rights of a child.
Posted by runner, Saturday, 11 October 2014 9:52:33 AM
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There is no such natural right as social paternity. The father's DNA is the all the child has a "natural right" to. Paternity is a social construct in a way that motherhood is not.
Posted by Jardine K. Jardine, Saturday, 11 October 2014 5:50:22 PM
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what about the rights of this child? Just change the scientific defintion

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Posted by runner, Sunday, 12 October 2014 2:55:01 PM
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