Like many people, I'm trying to understand the issues relating to climate change, and tending to be agnostic in the face of conflicting claims.

For example, IF there has been a pause - or even a slow-down - in the rise in world temperatures (however that is calculated), IF this is so, why ? CO2 production hasn't declined, so why haven't temperatures continued to rise, if there is actually any connection (and I presume there is supposed to be).

It seems to me to be nonsense to claim that somehow all that extra heat has gone into the deep oceans. Why not claim that it has all gone into the body temperatures of gnus and wildebeests across the African savannah, if only someone would go out and measure them ?

Surely if there has been continued increases in world temperatures, it has gone into EVERYTHING ? That everything should warm up, more or less, and roughly by the same amount ?

Unless there is some sort of God of Global Warming, who picks and chooses where AGW is to be focussed, and has decided that, hmmm, 'let's try deep oceans' ? Next year, gnus and wildebeests.

It's been bloody cold here in Adelaide this morning. I remember October days close to the old century mark. So how can we tap into all that energy in the deep oceans ?

A fool can ask questions that, it appears, wise men can't answer :)

Joe

You've summed it up very well Luciferase.

http://tinyurl.com/prmbp57

Loudmouth, your facetiousness does not serve you very well at all, let alone the science behind the inter-reactions between the oceans, atmosphere, terrestrial biosphere and cryosphere

Loudy Goose,

If your last post was designed to display your ignorance on this issue - I can only say that you couln't have done a better job if you had attached neon flashing lights to it.

Well done!

Loudmouth, is it possible that, in addition to gnus and wildebeests, some of the heat could have gone into the larger African animals such as giraffes and elephants? :-)

Hi Bernie,

No, that's NEXT year.

As usual, Poirot, your post is totally without content. If I'm wrong, which is very likely since climate science is not my thing, then give us all the massive benefit of your deep knowledge and point out how and where.

Yes, a fool like me can ask difficult questions. Can you answer them ? Without a single insult. I don't think so.

Dead silence was the stern reply.

Joe

Loudmouth,

"As usual, Poirot, your post is totally without content...."

Here's what you wrote:

"For example, IF there has been a pause - or even a slow-down - in the rise in world temperatures (however that is calculated), IF this is so, why ? CO2 production hasn't declined, so why haven't temperatures continued to rise, if there is actually any connection (and I presume there is supposed to be).

It seems to me to be nonsense to claim that somehow all that extra heat has gone into the deep oceans. Why not claim that it has all gone into the body temperatures of gnus and wildebeests across the African savannah, if only someone would go out and measure them ?

Surely if there has been continued increases in world temperatures, it has gone into EVERYTHING ? That everything should warm up, more or less, and roughly by the same amount ?

Unless there is some sort of God of Global Warming, who picks and chooses where AGW is to be focussed, and has decided that, hmmm, 'let's try deep oceans' ? Next year, gnus and wildebeests.

It's been bloody cold here in Adelaide this morning. I remember October days close to the old century mark. So how can we tap into all that energy in the deep oceans ? "

You consider that "content"?

I you wish to "understand" the issue, why don't you make tracks for sites which can answer your questions...and stop making stupid sarcastic posts on OLO because your mind is already made up - even though you haven't a clue about the science.