Moron the Yanks are very much in debt to the Chinese of a few trillion dollars
so may not be able to buy oil

Thanks Joe for the information

Joe,

"..... And all you can bitch about is the bloody oil. As if the Yanks can't just buy the stuff cheap."

Lol!....that's a completely simplistic and ignorant comment.

It's always resources - don't you get it?

http://www.nybooks.com/articles/archives/2005/jun/09/the-secret-way-to-war/

"By mid-July 2002, eight months before the war began, President Bush had decided to invade and occupy Iraq.

Bush had decided to “justify” the war “by the conjunction of terrorism and WMD.”

Already “the intelligence and facts were being fixed around the policy.”

"....WMD threat was indeed the Bush Admin's main thrust in formulating an invasion - an invasion which had already been decided upon even as Bush was delivering ultimatums to avert invasion.

"...Bush wanted to remove Saddam, through military action, justified by the conjunction of terrorism and WMD. But the intelligence and facts were being fixed around the policy..."

In Iraq's case, it was unfettered access they were after - and which they achieved.

It's why they don't bother with equivalent skirmishes and atrocities in African countries like in the Central African Republic and Zimbabwe.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-29354134

"ICC prosecutor Fatou Bensouda said there had been "endless" instances of rape, murder, forced displacement, persecution and pillaging since 2012.

She said both sides had committed atrocities in what has become a religious conflict between mainly Muslim rebels and Christian militias.

Almost a quarter of the 4.6 million population have fled their homes."

The post limit on OLO is sometimes a problem.

Good people supporting ISIS are in my opinion people who have no alternative, such as some of the kidnapped school girls.
There are also many many good people who just don't know of the bad stuff due to politics involving gagging and suppression of information, for example, Australian's in general lack information about malnutrition and associated disease and early death that is worsening among our Pacific islands neighbors.

What does it matter if you die from beheading due to radical mentality, or from gunshot due to farmer stress and suicide, or from stillbirth and blood poisoning due protein deficiency malnutrition? Dead anyway.

Did good people know about the brutality of Hitler when they were tricked into voting him into power? No. The majority of German's are good people, same as most Australian's are.

Did good politicians and good reporters know Julia Gillard would introduce a tax that would cripple and destroy many businesses and livelihood leading to stress, hopelessness and sometimes suicide?

We owe our freedom to America. Go look at the WWII wreckage at Guadalcanal that is closer to out shores than Brisbane is to Perth.

I hope China and Russia and all other nations can join as allies and work together to build prosperity and peace right now and into the future.

Still on topic, from my point of view empirical evidence categorically indicates unrest and terrorism is on the increase due to chronic economic hardship, not due to Australia's actions to combat the terrorism.

"I hope China and Russia and all other nations can join as allies and work together to build prosperity and peace right now and into the future," says JF AUS.

I agree but there is one problem. The U.S. doesn't want peace until it and its Capitalist Allies control the whole world. It sees Russia and China as its sworn enemies who threaten its imperial obsession and economic domination.

On OLO, the numbers of folks who clearly see what the U.S. is up to are few. And of course, there are the American Apologists who would applaud should the U.S. begin a nuclear war to ensure its domination fantasies are realized.

The U.S. is no-one's friend. It is the enemy of peace and cooperation!

David G, "The U.S. is no-one's friend. It is the enemy of peace and cooperation!"

A world with an isolationist US is your choice? Think again!

OTB,

I must be getting old. I can't easily tell the difference between gutless-Left and extreme-Right-isolationist any more. Conspiracy theorists, okay, anybody can see them coming, but the common anti-Americanism of pseudo-Left and semi-fascist- and fascist-Right is getting more blurry every day. Ergo, their apologies for the Islamo-fascism of ISIS.

David,

The US is trying to take over the world ? Well, they've had plenty of time to do it since 1945. And if so, why did they pull out of Iraq, particularly because of their secret obsession with controlling oil ?

Leave such theories to Arjay. Or ......... you're not Arjay, are you ?!

Wounded Goose,

I'll give the distillation of your wisdom the respect and time it deserves: ...........................

Joe