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A stupid nation will reap what it sows : Comments

By Bernard Toutounji, published 12/9/2014

Those who hold 'traditional' values are unable to any longer look with certainty to the wider society for support; they will instead be labeled as 'anti' one-thing or another.

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"Those who hold 'traditional' values are unable to any longer look with certainty to the wider society for support; they will instead be labeled as 'anti' one-thing or another."

Yes: anti-reason; anti-compassion; anti-equality; anti-progress -- because they are. The fundamental question your organisation needs to answer is: "Why should people be prevented from doing what they want to do when this harms nobody else?" and unless and until you can come up with a satisfactory answer, the 'labelling' will continue to be perfectly justified.
Posted by Jon J, Saturday, 13 September 2014 7:33:31 AM
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The WCF may claim to support traditional values, and I suppose they do to an extent, but at heart they are only another set of extremists who do NOT represent the silent majority of heterosexual married Christians, let alone the secular population.
Most of us "norms" are quite comfortable with the things the WCF opposes, gay rights, abortion etc, we are secure in our own identity and lives and willing to allow others to feel the same, as long as they don't attempt to force their ways on us we see no need to force ours on them, to put it simply, live and let live.
I believe a m/f marriage is the best available option for raising children, but it isn't the only one and it doesn't automatically follow that any others are bad by definition. We all know they're not.
A large highly involved extended family and social group (clan/tribe/village) is our genetic "norm" for child-rearing but we've unfortunately grown beyond that socially.
All that being said however, the media and the PC brigade have much to answer for, their contributions to the discussion serves nout but to muddy the waters and inflame passions best left a'sleeping.
Like so many extremists, of whatever "ism", the WCF would be a lonely little voice in the wilderness were it not for the sensationalist bent of the media and the over-reaction of their opponents.
You know what I miss most in every aspect of this 21st century?
"Quiet Dignity".
What was once quite common and held up as the epitome of personal and social behaviour is now lost to us, one only seems to find it fading gently away in the lonely streets of suburbia and out beneath the wheeling stars of the bush, it has singularly failed to take root in the toxic soil of modern life and we are all the poorer for that passing.
Posted by G'dayBruce, Saturday, 13 September 2014 9:59:55 AM
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The same ferals who protested (backed by the abc/sbs crowd) at the family event are the ones happy to allow mosques to be built throughout our country. They are silent at the abuse of young girls and remain blissfully ignorant of the ideology that treats women very second class. They are Christophobes above all else and what they hate is that children are far better off growing up with a loving dad and mum than they are in any other situation. They are offended because their perverted lifestyles and ideologies are just that.
Posted by runner, Saturday, 13 September 2014 10:15:09 AM
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Well done woolly.(Willy Wonker wonder worker) You've managed to prove my often malfunctioning keyboard is quite old, as I am; plus I'm permanently partially blind. [Oh I say,wealy, wun of our R's is missing! Luckily we weren't sitting on it at the time]
You should be so proud! Well done woolly! Wealy. Jolly good show, what?
As Indeed Her Hitler would have been, and given his promulgated personal predilections; Her Hitler doesn't seem too inappropriate?
And in good company, it would seem, along with Her Himmler, and a huge hirsute Herman, left leaning, going going gone Goring!
All too effeminate, it would seem woolly, to wealy front up and weap the whirlwind they created.
Never mind, they can't escape Karma.
Which wolls on and on until like wipples in a pond, [after a stone is thwown,] will weach their complete outer limits.
The pond in this case, a hypothetical universe?
Don't take offense, I'm just playing with offensive words, effendi!
You'll have a nice day now, y'hear.
Rhrosty.
Posted by Rhrosty, Saturday, 13 September 2014 1:18:41 PM
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Pericles

"I strongly disapprove of the plethora of advertisements for pay-day loans - Cash Train et al... For those unaware, a loan of $250, repaid in two weeks, is subject to an interest comparison rate of over 700%."

But not quite strongly enough to lend them your money at the rate you think would be fair, I take it?
Posted by Jardine K. Jardine, Saturday, 13 September 2014 5:31:30 PM
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You are probably unaware of the existence of these companies or their advertisements, Jardine K. Jardine - not really your demographic, after all.

>>But not quite strongly enough to lend them your money at the rate you think would be fair, I take it?<<

These folk are in the business of lending small amounts of money to the sort of people who find themselves short of a bob or two, with pay day still a week away. They don't particularly enjoy going into debt in this manner, but for one reason or another, they are forced to resort to taking out a short-term loan, at mammoth interest rates.

All completely legal and above board, but also in a very real sense, predatory on the weaknesses of others. The parallel I was drawing was that the existence of these businesses does not demonstrate that "society" approves of predatory lending practices, but nor should they be censored.

The author of the piece was suggesting that the act of advertising a perfectly legal business was somehow demonstrating that the same society "approves marital infidelity and breakdown".

I'm really surprised I have to explain this to you. You are normally quite quick on the uptake.
Posted by Pericles, Saturday, 13 September 2014 7:26:44 PM
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