The National Forum   Donate   Your Account   On Line Opinion   Forum   Blogs   Polling   About   
The Forum - On Line Opinion's article discussion area



Syndicate
RSS/XML


RSS 2.0

Main Articles General

Sign In      Register

The Forum > Article Comments > Newcastle: the good, the bad, and the ICAC > Comments

Newcastle: the good, the bad, and the ICAC : Comments

By Dino Cesta, published 25/8/2014

Despite Newcastle's version of political Armageddon, and the likelihood of further political repercussions, the city must dust itself off, rebuild its tarnished reputation, and plan for a more prosperous Newcastle.

  1. Pages:
  2. 1
  3. 2
  4. All
...It is a little rich to expect public officials to be honest, when the communities from which they are drawn are so corrupted isn't it?

...The Capitalist system relies on the sharp edge of corruption for its very survival, and comes packaged in a multiplicity of guises!
Posted by diver dan, Monday, 25 August 2014 11:44:33 AM
Find out more about this user Recommend this comment for deletion Return to top of page Return to Forum Main Page Copy comment URL to clipboard
Exactly! Is there another choice?
Rhrosty.
Posted by Rhrosty, Monday, 25 August 2014 12:38:01 PM
Find out more about this user Recommend this comment for deletion Return to top of page Return to Forum Main Page Copy comment URL to clipboard
...Yes there is another way. Not another way other than capitalism, but a screaming necessity to clean up corruption at all levels of society.
Fortunately, the judicial system remains workable, reliable and uncorrupted, (unlike the US).

...The flaw is in the law-making at the top political level, this is what we are observing now! It is the facility most attractive to the ruling elite through political means, and what we have seen is how vulnerable to corruption and manipulation, are these very same laws designed to prevent corruption, written by the political elite and designed to be circumvented to facilitate and hide serious corruption in public office!
Posted by diver dan, Monday, 25 August 2014 1:18:48 PM
Find out more about this user Recommend this comment for deletion Return to top of page Return to Forum Main Page Copy comment URL to clipboard
What drivel.
Posted by JohnBennetts, Monday, 25 August 2014 7:20:58 PM
Find out more about this user Recommend this comment for deletion Return to top of page Return to Forum Main Page Copy comment URL to clipboard
Actually John, it's not drivel, but a reasonable analysis of the problem, and nowhere more evident than in our most overcrowded capital city!
That fact alone should identify the major part of the problem.
However,the capitalist system is not alone in fostering corruption, but the communist one as well!
Try getting anything done in communist China, without greasing a few palms! And even more so, where poverty prevails!
I don't think either system has much future and ought to be replaced by a much more logical cooperative capitalism.
That,s still a free market system, but completely stripped of most of the unproductive parasites/freeloaders!
We also need to strip away at the very reasons for corruption in the first place!
Poverty, living beyond our means, the never ending, incredibly asinine, extremely expensive war on drugs, most of which could be legalized or decriminalized, with addicts treated as if they had a medical problem and so on!
Just that money saved by that final sanity, would balance our hugely over-stressed budget?
Then there's tax avoidance, or just creating opportunities for any of the foregoing? [Truly honest people just don't avoid tax, but render unto Caesar, that which is Caesar's!]
D.D, is right, we can achieve more of that, with more not less oversight, a bill of irrevocable rights; and complete equality before the law!
As opposed to a place where the rich can and do manipulate justice, just by the sheer size of their pocket book!
And the poor, who have no such means, even though completely in the right, go begging for true justice!?
It's hardly ever the rich who are ripe for for radicalization, but the poorest communities, or those who feel they have little left to lose, are eternally denied true justice, or simply couldn't be worse off!
And just one of those entities, is one too many!
Rhrosty.
Posted by Rhrosty, Tuesday, 26 August 2014 10:15:12 AM
Find out more about this user Recommend this comment for deletion Return to top of page Return to Forum Main Page Copy comment URL to clipboard
There is only one point I find myself disagreeing with you on Rhosty, and that is not mentioned in this article! But it does occasionally appear on these pages. I will continue to hold my line on that one! Cheers!
Posted by diver dan, Tuesday, 26 August 2014 11:34:19 AM
Find out more about this user Recommend this comment for deletion Return to top of page Return to Forum Main Page Copy comment URL to clipboard
I applaud ICAC in continuing to expose corrupt persons, whatever party they belong to. We - as residents and ratepayers - require "honest" government across the board as representatives of us as people and a nation - nothing more. Simple.
Posted by SAINTS, Wednesday, 27 August 2014 10:36:53 PM
Find out more about this user Recommend this comment for deletion Return to top of page Return to Forum Main Page Copy comment URL to clipboard
  1. Pages:
  2. 1
  3. 2
  4. All

About Us :: Search :: Discuss :: Feedback :: Legals :: Privacy