Hi Killarney,

Whether "Referring to women as God's 'perfect creations' and revelling in 'their glorious presence' does not indicate much respect for women as equals....."

is something I'm happy to defer to women about :)

So, what do you think of Psychology I so far ? It gets more complicated in Semester 2.

Joe

Joe,

As a suggestion in order to obviate any potential offence, I've edited your original sentence by adding five words:

"As a wishful-thinking philanderer, I LOVE women: if there actually is a God, I have no trouble believing that they are in all ways equal to Her/His most wonderfully perfect creation."

The word equal is a nonsense when speaking of men and women. In case anyone did not notice they are different. Generally man is stronger physically and woman are designed to have children. Funny how so many men haters want to be 'equal ' to man. The truth is that many of them want to dominate and be above man. It works vey well when man loves his wife and wife respects/submits to husbands. NO better recipe has been given yet.

Hi Wm Trevor,

If you mean 'equal to' something with superfluous hair in all the wrong places, unable to think of two things at once, and a bit on the nose, I can only respectfully suggest that, as the joke goes, God made a rough prototype first, before he came up with Her/His most brilliant innovation.

Joe

One important thing seems missing in this discussion, the fact that God or Evolution, pick your fav', designed the CHILD to be raised in a familial/group situation, with focused love, support and education, and preferably with siblings/peer group.
That's simple genetic FACT.
With Western development came the breakdown of the extended family, and now even the nuclear family is imploding.
The results are there in the media daily, an increasingly callous, unemphatic society, especially the younger generations, it's an exponential growth in self-centred isolationism, we're raising monsters by genetic standards.
Feminism, the Sexual Revolution, Multiculturalism, they're all symptoms, not causes, and Religion is suffering too, without that personal grounding in love and a sense of being a part of something bigger than oneself God just can't survive the competition from this hedonistic NOW world we've allowed to be built.
Even Islam's tortured terrorism is a direct response to the world we've let grow around us.
The answer, cure?
Sorry, beyond my pay grade, that, all I see ahead is Armageddon of one sort or another, God help the children!

"The word equal is a nonsense when speaking of men and women. In case anyone did not notice they are different. Generally man is stronger physically and woman are designed to have children."

Runner, you said 'equal' in your first sentence but you assumed 'identical' in your second. Nobody is claiming that men and women are 'identical', only that they are are of equal value. And women were not DESIGNED to have children, much as you would like to believe they were; they evolved to be child bearers. When you use 'designed', you want us to believe that it was god, not men, who decreed that women should be regarded as less important and valuable.

You make a similar unwarranted assumption that we were designed when you say that no better recipe has been given yet. Humans can, and should, work out right ways to behave for themselves. Why do you assume that we are incapable of working out how humans should behave to produce harmonious societies without deferring to 'recipes' handed to us by imperceivable gods? Those presently following such recipes in the various religion riven conflicts throughout the world are not doing too well at it.

You must know that where Christianity is concerned, when rated on such measures as social harmony, freedom from crime, narrowness of the rich-poor gap, etc., the least religious countries score best and the most religious score worst. And that even within a very religious Christian country like the USA, the most religious states have much higher crime rates, murder rates, teenage pregnancy rates, and general social disadvantage rates than the least religious.

It is bewildering that, given this, Christian apologists persist with the fiction that those not steeped in the so-called Christian ethic can never aspire to the same level of morality, or derive the same level of satisfaction from their life choices, as those who are.