Leo Lane,

According to what I could discover on the net, Bob Carter is a palaeontologist, not a climatologist and he works for the IPA. The article was posted in 2003, presumably all the research during the last 11 years doesn't count.
Well, yes, he's a scientist.

Is there another 'Bob Carter?

Hi Leo,
I have a very simple question for you. Can you answer it truthfully - but just to yourself. Don't tell your answer to anyone else.

Here is the question:
"Do you ever plan tomorrows activities based on today's forecast for tomorrow?"

If your answer is yes, then you are trusting the climate science built into the Bureau of Meteorolgy's computer models - that is the same science that is incorporated into Climate Change models.

If your answer is no, you are, at least, consistent.

I guess you have heard of Ian Plimer, Lord Monkton, Michael Asten, Bob Carter (of course), Bill Kinninmonth? Given that 97% of thousands of climate researchers agree with the science, you might suggest that those people belongs in the other 3%. They dont - they are not climate researchers. The Heartland Institure in the US funds people such as Bob Carter to dispute climate science. That organisation also supports Intelligent Design in preference to the theory of evolution. I understand it receives some finding from the billionair Koch brothers, who made their fortunes in the fossil fuel industry.

Try to be a little more discriminating when seeking scientific comment on climate change.

Thanks, Poirot and warmair, for confirming that you have no science to show any significance of human emissions to global warming. You continue to base your assertion of AGW on your dishonesty, and not on science.
Here is something that Robert Carter wrote last year, mac, relevant to the IPCC, the puppet of the United Nations:
“Meanwhile, the scientific evidence now overwhelmingly indicates that any human warming effect is deeply submerged within planet Earth's natural variations of temperature.
Importantly, no global warming has now occurred since 1997, despite an increase of atmospheric carbon dioxide of 8%, which in turn represents 34% of all the extra human-related carbon dioxide contributed since the industrial revolution.
Few of these facts are new, yet until recently the public have been relentlessly misinformed that human-caused global warming was causing polar bears to die out, more and more intense storms, droughts and floods to occur, the monsoons to fail, sea-level rise to accelerate, ice to melt at unnatural rates, that late 20th century temperature was warmer than ever before and that speculative computer models could predict the temperature accurately one hundred years into the future.
It now turns out that not one of these assertions is true. So who has been telling us these scientific whoppers?
The United Nations, that's who”
http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/opinion/report-gives-the-truth-about-climate-at-last/story-fni0cwl5-1226720428390

There is no basis upon which the IPCC should continue to exist

Leo - you should be a standup commedian.

Bob Carter is not a source of knowledable understanding of climate change science.

Just go to the Bureau of Meteorolgy - and see that temperature records are still being set.
Go to NASA and check their data.
Search the web to find out about huge forest fires in the Arctic regions of Canada and Siberia.
Check out California for record low water supplies.
Check the results from over 3000 ARGO bouys measuring ocean temperatures down to a km or so deep - showing that over 90% of the warming being experienced is occurring in the oceans.
Check the rapid loss of ice in the Arctic, and the west Antarctic ice sheet.
Look at continuing droughts in western NSW and Qld.
Look at the Syrian war, initiated by 4 year drought along the Euphraties River, and the consequent displacement of amost a million residents from rural to city living - with no Government support - leading to rebellion.

From what ethical basis do you ignore all of this to pillory climate scientists?

I apologise for not keeping to a resolution made many months ago - to not debate with those who do not "get" what is happening, or who appear to be doing all they can to leave our children and grandchildren an atrocious environment.

One last question: "do you care?"

Discussion here is like so many others on this topic. Filled with religous fevor (one poster has even suggested contemplating Krugmans comment about treating non believers with treason, and we all know what sort of society comes with no free speech). Once upon a time everyone believed that that the sun revolved around the earth, there was consensus apart from an odd skeptic.

I am stunned that the obviously smart people posting here do not harbor any doubt about humans impact on climate change. Surely after so many years of doomsday predictions failing to come true there must be some independent thought coming through....? It's time to watch Al Gore's movie again, recognising that it's just not going the way predicted.

Again, to pre-empt - no denial that humans have impact, no denial that CO2 has some impact, but the size and our response on CO2 only are highly questionable. Just think what could have been done with all that wasted $'s. Trees planted, salinity controlled, species protected etc. We should be ashamed that science has been abused so badly. As a scientist, I am.

Hi Roobs,
I am not sure what sort of scientist you are, but I would guess not a climate change scientist. Al Gore's movie very prescient. Things that are happening now are worse that what was predicted.

You might like to look at this 7 minute video.

http://youtu.be/2K2s2EjsXJI