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What (if anything) can be done about the IPCC? : Comments

By Don Aitkin, published 8/8/2014

Although it has lost some of the status it once had, the Inter-Governmental Panel on Climate Change is still a formidable body, and acts as a dead weight on attempts to change the nature of the 'climate change' debate.

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>"However, as I pointed out above these limitations in measurements do not suddenly stop the Earth from warming. "

That is a really dumb statement. It's incredible that someone who claims they have been trained in science would make such a statement. You should know better. No one who understands the most basic concepts of science or engineering would argue that uncertainty in a measurement has any effect on the physical process that cause changes to the parameters being measured.

The fact you write such a silly statement means you either have little understanding about science or about the subject. Or you are just a person who repeats the mantra of others without understanding it. If the latter, it suggest you are possible a political propagandist or a cult follower - i.e. a Climate Cultist.

>"I don’t write my own piece because I am not really an expert in this area "

You've demonstrated in spades that you are not an expert in the area. You clearly read only what supports the Climate Cultist's cult beliefs.
Posted by Peter Lang, Monday, 11 August 2014 9:31:25 AM
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Hi Peter,
You have missed your calling. Should be an orchardist. Your comment on measurement uncertainty is a perfect piece of cherry picking.
Posted by Tony153, Monday, 11 August 2014 9:52:59 AM
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Tony153,

>"You have missed your calling. Should be an orchardist. Your comment on measurement uncertainty is a perfect piece of cherry picking."

I don't know on what basis you say that my comment "is a perfect piece of cherry picking".

I responded to the opening line of Agronomist's comment which is a perfect example of a strawman argument - i.e. he attributed a bogus argument to those he disagrees with - i.e. he made up something they did not say and then attackjed the bogus statements. If you don't know it, that is one of the 10 signs of intellectual dishonesty: http://judithcurry.com/2013/04/20/10-signs-of-intellectual-honesty/.

it was so blatant I dismiss Agronomist as fundamentally dishonest. Nothing he says on his Climate beliefs from now on can be interpreted other than his arguments are based on partisan political advocacy, or ideology or cult beliefs - the Climate Cultists. I am persuaded it is the latter.

Your comment leads me to suspect you of the same, since you didn't respond to - or chose to avoid addressing - the substance of the reply I addressed to you.
Posted by Peter Lang, Monday, 11 August 2014 10:22:47 AM
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“ ...other than his arguments are based on partisan political advocacy, or ideology or cult beliefs”
Seriously?
This from a man who consistently prefers to get his science from the Heartland institute, funded almost entirely by the Koch brothers and other major polluters, and refuses to accept any evidence offered by virtually every credible scientific institution in the world...
Nope. No 'partisan political advocacy, ideology or cult beliefs' there.
Posted by Grim, Monday, 11 August 2014 11:07:47 AM
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Peter, you seem to have overlooked the fact that fraud-backing is based on either dishonesty or ignorance. Agronimist is not ignorant. Neither is Tony or warmair. They have no science to support their position, so resort to baseless criticism of the person pointing out the truth. Their favourite inanity is “cherry picking”. It is the most frequent of their nonsense responses when they are exposed, and not a serious response requiring reply
Posted by Leo Lane, Monday, 11 August 2014 11:27:15 AM
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The science has been settled, the climate is changing.
This year has been an extremely expensive year for Insurance Companies through the very weather patterns that climate scientists have warned us about. For example, earlier this year Boulder, Colorado; had rainfall of 18 inches of rain in 8 days, 18 inches being their yearly total.


An International Scientific Research Group is operating right now from the Swedish icebreaker Oden. They have found worrying levels of methane being voided from the Laptev Sea. Methane is a very strong greenhouse gas.
Methane is contained by extremely cold temperatures, Arctic waters are becoming warmer through influences such as the Gulf Stream.
April of this year presented as providing the lowest extent of sea ice maxima recorded. Fortunately, at this stage we do not look as though we will be hearing of a record minimum sea ice level in September. However, the sea ice level will be very low in comparison to 1979. The sea ice level in September will be determined by the strength and number of storms experienced in that area between now and mid September. Whatever sea ice is recorded in September, it will still be showing the downward trend line.
Ash being deposited on ice sheets and sea ice from very major fires in Siberia and Northern Canada do not bode well for 2015; through the reflective nature of snow and ice being changed (albedo factor.)
Posted by ant, Monday, 11 August 2014 12:12:39 PM
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